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BumRushDaShow

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3. But the SOH doesn't "certify" anything
Mon Dec 30, 2024, 07:03 PM
Dec 2024

The House "hosts" the Joint session where the U.S. Constitution and the various iterations/updates of the Electoral Count Act have the VICE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES (who is "President of the Senate" ) do the "certification" in a "Ceremonial Role".

I.e., - this is the latest that is in effect after being inserted in an Omnibus Appropriations bill and enacted - https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/senate-bill/4573/text

S.4573 - Electoral Count Reform and Presidential Transition Improvement Act of 2022

(snip)

TITLE I—Electoral Count Reform Act

SEC. 101. Short title.

This title may be cited as the “Electoral Count Reform Act of 2022”.

(snip)

SEC. 109. Clarifications relating to counting electoral votes.

(a) In general.—Section 15 of title 3, United States Code, is amended to read as follows:

“§ 15. Counting electoral votes in Congress

“(a) In general.—Congress shall be in session on the sixth day of January succeeding every meeting of the electors. The Senate and House of Representatives shall meet in the Hall of the House of Representatives at the hour of 1 o'clock in the afternoon on that day, and the President of the Senate shall be their presiding officer.

“(b) Powers of the President of Senate.

“(1) MINISTERIAL IN NATURE.—Except as otherwise provided in this chapter, the role of the President of the Senate while presiding over the joint meeting shall be limited to performing solely ministerial duties.

“(2) POWERS EXPLICITLY DENIED.—The President of the Senate shall have no power to solely determine, accept, reject, or otherwise adjudicate or resolve disputes over the proper list of electors, the validity of electors, or the votes of electors.

“(c) Appointment of tellers.—At the joint meeting of the Senate and House of Representatives described in subsection (a), there shall be present two tellers previously appointed on the part of the Senate and two tellers previously appointed on the part of the House of Representatives by the presiding officers of the respective chambers.

“(d) Procedure at joint meeting generally.—

“(1) IN GENERAL.—The President of the Senate shall

“(A) open the certificates and papers purporting to be certificates of the votes of electors appointed pursuant to a certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors issued pursuant to section 5, in the alphabetical order of the States, beginning with the letter A; and

“(B) upon opening any certificate, hand the certificate and any accompanying papers to the tellers, who shall read the same in the presence and hearing of the two Houses.

“(2) ACTION ON CERTIFICATE.—

“(A) IN GENERAL.—Upon the reading of each certificate or paper, the President of the Senate shall call for objections, if any.

“(B) REQUIREMENTS FOR OBJECTIONS.—

“(i) OBJECTIONS.—No objection shall be in order unless the objection—

“(I) is made in writing;

“(II) is signed by at least one-fifth of the Senators duly chosen and sworn and one-fifth of the Members of the House of Representatives duly chosen and sworn; and

“(III) states clearly and concisely, without argument, one of the grounds listed under clause (ii).

“(ii) GROUNDS FOR OBJECTIONS.—The only grounds for objections shall be as follows:

“(I) The electors of the State were not lawfully certified under a certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors according to section 5(a)(1).

“(II) The vote of one or more electors has not been regularly given.

“(C) CONSIDERATION OF OBJECTIONS.—

“(i) IN GENERAL.—When all objections so made to any vote or paper from a State shall have been received and read, the Senate shall thereupon withdraw, and such objections shall be submitted to the Senate for its decision; and the Speaker of the House of Representatives shall, in like manner, submit such objections to the House of Representatives for its decision.

“(ii) DETERMINATION.—No objection may be sustained unless such objection is sustained by separate concurring votes of each House.

“(D) RECONVENING.—When the two Houses have voted, they shall immediately again meet, and the presiding officer shall then announce the decision of the questions submitted. No votes or papers from any other State shall be acted upon until the objections previously made to the votes or papers from any State shall have been finally disposed of.

(snip)


And on January 6, "the President of the Senate" WILL BE VP KAMALA HARRIS.

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Musk disapproves..... Lovie777 Dec 2024 #1
Only because "he" wants no problems certifying the election. Grins Dec 2024 #2
But the SOH doesn't "certify" anything BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #3
The point is that the House can't Pototan Dec 2024 #6
That's what I thought Polybius Dec 2024 #7
Did you forget what happened the last time? BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #9
That has nothing to do with my post Polybius Dec 2024 #20
But there was NO speaker on January 3rd, 2021 BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #21
Ahh, didn't know that Polybius Dec 2024 #22
Oh there were people who protested Pelosi in Jan. 2019 after the 2018 election BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #24
Thank you for all the great info Polybius Jan 2025 #25
Thank you! Forgot about Bobo BumRushDaShow Jan 2025 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author Polybius Dec 2024 #23
There was. Pelosi was Speaker. Grins Jan 2025 #28
The House was "doing (limited) business" BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #8
That's a different set of circumstances Pototan Dec 2024 #10
It's not "different" BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #11
I'm sorry. You're mistaken Pototan Dec 2024 #12
I'm waiting for you link to something that justifies your assertions BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #13
The link is ambiguous at best Pototan Dec 2024 #14
And I keep "Roll Call" (that also publishes the Congressional Quarterly) BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #15
The experts do not have only one way Pototan Dec 2024 #16
Directly from the article that you linked of "Roll Call" BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #17
Look, I'm sorry, but Pototan Dec 2024 #18
I know where you are BumRushDaShow Dec 2024 #19
I hope they eat each other alive. Raw. Ewww. Evolve Dammit Dec 2024 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author Terry_M Dec 2024 #5
As weird as this has become. 1/3 of the government depend on Massie and Chip Roy underpants Jan 2025 #26
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