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JHB

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31. It's a labor issue (not that the MAGAts would frame it that way)
Tue Dec 31, 2024, 03:18 PM
Dec 2024

There are more stances on this issue than just MAGA bigots vs techbro H1b cheerleaders. Yes, we want a visa program for highly skilled individuals, but tech companies have been abusing the H1b program for decades, and thanks to money and lobbying to both parties, it's never been fixed.

Tech companies will make a fig leaf job listing for domestic engineers, usually with a provision that no applicant can meet and thus provides an excuse to deny any applicant, such as "must have 10 years experience" in a technology that didn't exist ten years ago. They can then tell the government "well, we couldn't fill the position domestically" and go for a visa hire.

A lot of those jobs aren't things that require such super-special knowledge that domestic engineers can't do it, but visa hires are cheaper and are more easily controlled thanks to the terms of the visa and their contracts.

Also, to the extent that domestic engineers don't know certain technologies, a good portion of that is because visa abuse has warped the job market to the extent that domestic engineers don't bother learning those technologies because it will be time, money, and effort wasted: no matter what they do, those jobs will go to visa hires, so they don't specialize in those things, artificially creating a knowledge gap for domestic engineers.

It wasn't watching Saved By The Bell that created the gap (as Vivek Ramaswami claimed a few days ago), it was the hiring practices of Elon and Vivek and many others.

It's a very legit stance to be in favor of the H1b program but want abuse of it substantially cleaned up and effective enforcement of its rules.

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Eloon sure sounds like a tough guy - NOT. He's the photo on the poster for the Pasty Ass white boy club. NoMoreRepugs Dec 2024 #1
He sure doesn't like workers who have actual rights Attilatheblond Dec 2024 #7
Which is unsurprising since Prof. Toru Tanaka Dec 2024 #20
Musk is a serious national security risk ... & we've just seen the start of it. NotHardly Dec 2024 #29
This prick needs to be gone. NotHardly Dec 2024 #2
Agree 4catsmom Dec 2024 #17
Musk didn't come to the US on an H1B, he came on a student visa (F1). sinkingfeeling Dec 2024 #3
Should have Rebl2 Dec 2024 #22
Someone has to be pathologically greedy to try something like this. Dave Bowman Dec 2024 #4
Bullshit. He fled South Africa to avoid mandatory military service! Ziggysmom Dec 2024 #5
I keep reading he 'left college' after 2 days Attilatheblond Dec 2024 #8
Some day I hope we can throw this racist out of our country. Joinfortmill Dec 2024 #6
Guess this iswhy he wants to Build a Company Town for the Workers to Live in homes and buy from the company Store Oneear Dec 2024 #9
The hypocrisy of these NEO CON/NEO NAZI'S never ends. You MAGA fools that voted for this regime Bengus81 Dec 2024 #10
Of course roscoeroscoe Dec 2024 #11
Oligarch One is right about one thing: Justice matters. Dec 2024 #12
lol, now he's stealing rhetoric from his new buddy n/t Cheezoholic Dec 2024 #13
I'm kind of with some rank and file MAGA on this one. LisaM Dec 2024 #14
Your concern isn't maga at all. Maga is all about Klarkashton Dec 2024 #23
Don't forget hating women! travelingthrulife Dec 2024 #28
It's a labor issue (not that the MAGAts would frame it that way) JHB Dec 2024 #31
A taste of... 2naSalit Dec 2024 #15
For every H1B worker there is an unemployed American Demobrat Dec 2024 #16
Corporations use H-1B Visas as basically a scam to pay tech workers less. SunSeeker Dec 2024 #26
this harun Dec 2024 #32
Companies shouldn't be allowed to hire such workers for up to 6 years after they have reduced their workforce. cstanleytech Dec 2024 #18
They would just get around it by slightly rewriting the job description. Demobrat Dec 2024 #19
id love this sucker deported . AllaN01Bear Dec 2024 #21
This is their dirty little secret. There is always a dirty little secret Klarkashton Dec 2024 #24
Been there. On the receiving end. Not fun. nt Xipe Totec Dec 2024 #25
I have been screaming since I started my wife's green card process that the entire "legal" immigration process AZLD4Candidate Dec 2024 #27
This acticle is poor analysis that is uncritically repeating claims from a racist reddit forum. mathematic Dec 2024 #30
Oh please. Nobody here thinks all immigrants are stealing our jobs. We're talking about H-1B visa holders. SunSeeker Dec 2024 #33
So being anti slave labor is the same as being Demobrat Dec 2024 #34
So much for "America First"... Blue_Tires Dec 2024 #35
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