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Gymbo

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25. No disrespect for your opinion

Sun Jan 19, 2025, 02:42 PM

Jan 19

Anchors used on oil transport vessels can weigh more than 20 tons and no Western maritime officer would be caught dead dragging a twenty-ton anchor for 100 miles. Even Eastern European, or Russian crews would be ashamed to be found making a mistake like that, and the effect of dragging something that heavy would have pronounced consequences on the forward travel of that ship.
The same applies to smaller ships. A one thousand-pound anchor suddenly grabbing a submerged object would stop that ship with a very violent force. Ships at sea do not just take off with the anchor dragging, it is perhaps one of the first protocols for ship handling to order the anchor raised.

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Accidents, not Russian sabotage, behind undersea cable damage, officials say [View all] reACTIONary Jan 19 OP

I don't believe it, it was the russians Shellback Squid Jan 19 #1

Absolutely. And WaPo is a shitty news source. Dave Bowman Jan 19 #3

First, They are reporting on .... reACTIONary Jan 19 #6

Wapo is a shitty news source, period. Dave Bowman Jan 19 #11

Okey Dokey .... reACTIONary Jan 19 #13

they have the satellite tracking of one of the ships that cut the electrical line going to Finland lapfog_1 Jan 20 #45

Backtracking is certainly a suspicious maneuver.... reACTIONary Jan 20 #46

And you know this how? paleotn Jan 19 #23

No chance it was an accident. That ship dragged its anchor for miles and miles. Calista241 Jan 19 #2

That, along with several other facts and assessments... reACTIONary Jan 19 #7

Cover story PJMcK Jan 19 #4

Why would "the governments" want .... reACTIONary Jan 19 #9

Consider this PJMcK Jan 19 #14

Thanks for your reply! In my own opinion.... reACTIONary Jan 19 #20

Yeah, right dalton99a Jan 19 #5

That sounds like a bigger pile of crap than a tRump diaper load. CentralMass Jan 19 #8

See #29 for article links which would refute this bs SheltieLover Jan 19 #32

Why would cables be laid where "maritime accidents" could occur? BadgerKid Jan 19 #10

If they cross the entirety of a body of water used for maritime trade, Igel Jan 19 #16

Because there isn't any other place... reACTIONary Jan 19 #18

??? paleotn Jan 19 #24

I have a hard time believing that RazorbackExpat Jan 19 #12

Finland and others are not buying this............ riversedge Jan 19 #15

Thanks! It seems from this excerpt.... reACTIONary Jan 19 #19

Precisely! And would not explain NATO prepping SheltieLover Jan 19 #29

Yep, sure is Marthe48 Jan 19 #17

Bull. No names making these assertions. No attribution. It's all "sources." n/t dobleremolque Jan 19 #21

Yow! You mean that WaPo.... reACTIONary Jan 19 #22

No disrespect for your opinion Gymbo Jan 19 #25

Bad seamanship is more common than you think. paleotn Jan 19 #28

Yet, you automatically believe unattributed sources who agree with your views on things. paleotn Jan 19 #30

Reminds me of the "Call before you dig" adverts in the yellow pages back in the day. paleotn Jan 19 #26

I'm no sea-captain, The Unmitigated Gall Jan 19 #27

Did we raise anchor? Yeah, yeah, it's raised......................oh shit! paleotn Jan 19 #31

Lets not overlook who owns WAPO & where his loyalties lie SheltieLover Jan 19 #33

Cutting Undersea Cables is No Accident But is Inexpensive Hybrid Warfare C0RI0LANUS Jan 19 #34

See #29 above for links to posts on articles seeming to refute WAPOs bs SheltieLover Jan 19 #35

Hi SheltieLover. Concur. C0RI0LANUS Jan 19 #36

Absolutely! SheltieLover Jan 19 #37

Thanks! SheltieLover Jan 19 #43

Thanks for those links... reACTIONary Jan 19 #41

It is unclear to me why you are so defensive of the WAPO SheltieLover Jan 19 #42

I am a defender of all good, solid enterprise reporting.... reACTIONary Jan 19 #44

Last year off the coast of California, an oil line sprung Buddyzbuddy Jan 19 #38

Thanks! It would be interesting to compare to these incidents. reACTIONary Jan 19 #40

Bullshit orangecrush Jan 19 #39