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Journeyman

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5. Keep in mind, slavery was ultimately vanquished from our land because of Robert E. Lee . . .
Sun Jan 19, 2025, 05:34 PM
Jan 2025

It is one of those supremely ironic situations that doesn’t get near enough recognition.

Up until the time Lee took command of the Army of Northern Virginia (June 1862) it was Mr Lincoln’s stated objective that if the South ceased its rebellion, and submitted again to Union control, then slavery would remain as it had been prior to the rebellion. The original 13th Amendment, the Corwin Amendment (after Thomas Corwin, the Ohio Congressman who proposed it in 1860), held that slavery was to be unmolested in perpetuity. Mr Lincoln himself endorsed this idea in his First Inaugural. (1)

It was Robert E. Lee’s success against far superior Union forces in the Seven Days Battles that sealed the South’s fate and slavery’s demise. In driving the Army of the Potomac back, Lee turned Confederate morale around, and its soldiers took to battle with renewed purpose. That summer, however, convinced Mr Lincoln that every tactic needed to be deployed against the rebellion, including denial of its labor force, the eventual use of black soldiers, and the issuance of the Emancipation Proclamation. The die was cast -- by Robert E. Lee -- and the result was eventual total war and the destruction of the Southern social and political order.

So if they wish to honor this scoundrel, Bobby Lee, for this good he ultimately brought to pass, I've no problem with that. Otherwise, he was a traitorous miscreant, not worthy of recognition outside the history books.


(1) "I understand a proposed amendment to the Constitution (2)—which amendment, however, I have not seen—has passed Congress, to the effect that the Federal Government shall never interfere with the domestic institutions of the States, including that of persons held to service. To avoid misconstruction of what I have said, I depart from my purpose not to speak of particular amendments so far as to say that, holding such a provision to now be implied constitutional law, I have no objection to its being made express and irrevocable.” ~ President Abraham Lincoln, First Inaugural, March 4, 1861

(2) The Corwin Amendment: No amendment shall be made to the Constitution which will authorize or give to Congress the power to abolish or interfere, within any State, with the domestic institutions thereof, including that of persons held to labor or service by the laws of said State.

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Yes. HONOR Robert E Lee BOSSHOG Jan 2025 #1
When the next Civil War comes liberalgunwilltravel Jan 2025 #2
You won't need to fire a shot in the next civil war. Crowman2009 Jan 2025 #31
So dishonorable nt evemac Jan 2025 #3
Why not honor Benedict Arnold PoindexterOglethorpe Jan 2025 #4
Keep in mind, slavery was ultimately vanquished from our land because of Robert E. Lee . . . Journeyman Jan 2025 #5
Lee helped end slavery intelpug Jan 2025 #21
The UK was against slavery in the US because of economic reasons. C0RI0LANUS Jan 2025 #27
The Confederate States would not have abolished slavery. yardwork Jan 2025 #28
Used to get annoyed by those Deminpenn Jan 2025 #6
Because, Of Course They Are. GB_RN Jan 2025 #7
Garbage does what garbage is Scalded Nun Jan 2025 #8
If they honor Lee, they might as well honor Hitler. (nt) Paladin Jan 2025 #9
And the South shall rise again! leftyladyfrommo Jan 2025 #10
Slave Hunts bmichaelh Jan 2025 #11
Supporting traitors. At least these people are consistent. travelingthrulife Jan 2025 #12
Lincoln was way too kind to the traitors. n/t Evolve Dammit Jan 2025 #13
Yeah honor a person who supported slavery. Speaks volumes about Alabama and Mississippi. I cannot repeat the disgust JohnSJ Jan 2025 #14
Seditious Confederates from the past possessed Bluethroughu Jan 2025 #15
it does have an internal logic, albeit a deplorable, crude and racist one prodigitalson Jan 2025 #16
I'll never donate to another suffering red state stollen Jan 2025 #17
Tennessee is trying to get its citizens to stop celebrating the Confederacy..... 70sEraVet Jan 2025 #18
My liberal dad, who hates Trump and is by no means a bigot, Elessar Zappa Jan 2025 #19
It's ok to admire military men and women as great leaders of their troops and Deminpenn Jan 2025 #24
Racist to their core. nt moniss Jan 2025 #20
You can't succeed at honoring someone who is dishonorable. BadgerMom Jan 2025 #22
The United States of America is the only country Pototan Jan 2025 #23
When Virginia adopted MLK Day they made it Lee-Jackson-King Day underpants Jan 2025 #25
They love traitors. And hate the US. Irish_Dem Jan 2025 #26
The racist south loves its participation trophies Orrex Jan 2025 #29
Alabama, Florida, Kentucky, Mississippi, and Texas have holidays that commemorate the birthday kellytore Jan 2025 #30
Yes, honor a traitor on the very johnnyfins Jan 2025 #32
Racism Is Alive and Well in Neo-Dixie Kid Berwyn Jan 2025 #33
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