How DANGEROUS is SAN FRANCISCO for Visitors?

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3. No enforcement for shoplifting under $900?

Or car break in's under $900? Defecating in public? Want to blame someone, look no further than city hall. Sounds like a break down in the basic "blocking and tackling" of running a city. The basic stuff that makes a city livable for everyone.

Burlington VT is having some of the same troubles on a much smaller scale and for the same reasons. Don't want to dump on our Progressive friends, but you've got to temper ideology with good sense and pragmatism. Sorry, but that's how the real world works. You may not like the cops. They may need reform, certainly, but they're as essential to the function of a city as the fire department. Happy thoughts only go so far.