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In reply to the discussion: Breaking: Kezia Dugdale steps down as Scottish Labour leader [View all]Denzil_DC
(8,009 posts)30. YouGov: "Why the Labour centrists stand a better chance in Scotland"
Kezia Dugdales recent resignation means that for the third successive summer year Labour will have a leadership contest. However, this contest will take place amongst Scottish party members and not the UK wide selectorate that twice voted for Jeremy Corbyn.
This may make a difference in terms of what kind of candidate ends up winning the most support. After being twice burned by Jeremy Corbyns overwhelming victories, the more centrist factions of the Labour party will hope that in the upcoming contest they end up on the winning side of a leadership election.
Our data suggests that they may have a better chance than in the previous two summers national votes. In last years contest, Scottish members were noticeably less Corbynista than the rest of the UK. YouGovs data indicates that while England and Wales were both overwhelmingly in favour of Jeremy Corbyn, Scotland favoured the challenger, Owen Smith.
Furthermore, party members in Scotland are slightly more centrist than their English and Welsh counterparts, with over a quarter (27%) describing themselves as slightly left of centre compared to 20% in England and Wales.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/09/13/why-labour-centrists-stand-better-chance-scotland/
This may make a difference in terms of what kind of candidate ends up winning the most support. After being twice burned by Jeremy Corbyns overwhelming victories, the more centrist factions of the Labour party will hope that in the upcoming contest they end up on the winning side of a leadership election.
Our data suggests that they may have a better chance than in the previous two summers national votes. In last years contest, Scottish members were noticeably less Corbynista than the rest of the UK. YouGovs data indicates that while England and Wales were both overwhelmingly in favour of Jeremy Corbyn, Scotland favoured the challenger, Owen Smith.
Furthermore, party members in Scotland are slightly more centrist than their English and Welsh counterparts, with over a quarter (27%) describing themselves as slightly left of centre compared to 20% in England and Wales.
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2017/09/13/why-labour-centrists-stand-better-chance-scotland/
This polling falls foul of the usual problems of small Scottish subsamples, but it's all there is at the moment (other than some other recent routine polls that show Labour stubbornly stuck in third place in Scotland).
If there's been any noticeable "Corbyn effect" in Scotland, it seems to have been more reflected in an increase in membership of the Campaign for Socialism (established in 1994, nowadays allied with Momentum) than an increase in Labour membership.
So the outcome of the Scottish Labour leadership election (currently between two uninspiring candidates whose supporters are already engaged in heated media and social media campaigns to discredit the other) hinges on entryism, and what membership time limits will be set for being eligible to vote in it, between now and 18 November, when the election will be held.
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She DID stand up to Corbyn...in fact, she spent much of her tenure fighting to remove him
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#2
Corbyn HAPPENS to be from London. He hasn't taken consciously anti-Scottish positions.
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#4
OK...but since any politician from anywhere is going to have some local loyalties,
Ken Burch
Aug 2017
#6
Corbyn was Labour leader when the Scotland Act 2016 was debated and voted through Parliament.
Denzil_DC
Aug 2017
#14
There are contradictions, but it's not as simple as saying Corbyn is contradictory
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#21
My point about the no-confidence motion was not about claiming Callaghan was brilliant.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#29
As you pointed out, most of those who would be "Corbynyista" ended up in the SNP.
Ken Burch
Sep 2017
#31
I'm rapidly coming to the conclusion that you don't actually read what I write,
Denzil_DC
Sep 2017
#32
What is it about politicians swanning off from their jobs to appear on reality shows?
LeftishBrit
Nov 2017
#35
On the brighter side, I reckon it finished off the serious period of Galloway's career!
Denzil_DC
Nov 2017
#36
AFAIK, it's actually a separate strain of infighting, and endemic to Scottish labour.
Denzil_DC
Oct 2018
#44