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syringis

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3. For many reasons
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 02:55 AM
Oct 2017

First the result caught everyone by surprise. Exit wasn't at all expected. I was only a political move in part Cameron promised a referendum if his party wins the general elections in 2015. On another part, GB issued a veto threat over the UE budget 2014-2020 (Bloomberg discourse). The aim was to maintain the Tories cohesion (their win in 2015 was unexpected), to counter UKIP which was a growing threat to the Tories and put pressure on UE.

Brexit wasn't at all taken seriously and if you want a proof, Tories did not even had a first draft on how to leave Europe...Not the slightest idea, not a single word or thought in this case.

Several factors may explain the disastrous result : the way the question of the referendum was oriented, a campaign focused on wrong issues, false figures,...mostly, voters were less informed, all that in a context where extremists parties were growing almost everwhere in Europe. The mythic idea that the simplistic (idiot) answers to extremely complicated problems would fit. I was appalled to see how much britains hadn't any idea of what was really UE or couldn't even name the countries member of UE or did know how much countries were members...They started to search AFTER the results...

Furthermore, Russia as no strategic interest to have GB out the UE. In fact, it is exactly the opposite.

This is why Russia is almost certainly not involved in the referendum results.

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Yes it's odd, there is no traction on the story. Of course the OnDoutside Oct 2017 #1
I've seen some discussion, for example Jarqui Oct 2017 #2
I really don't understand the purpose of such statements syringis Oct 2017 #4
I'm not as convinced that Jarqui Oct 2017 #5
2 very basic reasons syringis Oct 2017 #6
For many reasons syringis Oct 2017 #3
Almost everything you say applied to the American presidential election too muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #8
Hello Muriel syringis Oct 2017 #13
My French isn't great, but I can give it a go if you think you can express yourself better in it muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #14
Hello Muriel syringis Oct 2017 #16
Hi, Syringis Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #17
Hi Denzil Dc, you are welcome. syringis Oct 2017 #18
I posted about the issue of student disenfranchisement back in mid-2016: Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #19
Thank you, I will take a look syringis Oct 2017 #20
OK, I hadn't checked your profile and didn't realize you were Belgian. Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #21
Russia likes chaos for the sake of chaos Not Ruth Oct 2017 #7
Chaos creates and allows control. We are all living that nightmare everyday. democratisphere Oct 2017 #9
Hello Muriel syringis Oct 2017 #10
the facts would show its more than Russia spreading fake news and propaganda beachbum bob Oct 2017 #11
Because it wasn't a "Russian intel operation". Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #12
Russian intel may have got involved at the end but it's too simplistic to call it a 'Russian intel LeftishBrit Oct 2017 #15
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