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LeftishBrit

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15. Russian intel may have got involved at the end but it's too simplistic to call it a 'Russian intel
Thu Oct 5, 2017, 04:02 PM
Oct 2017

operation'.

The roots of Brexit began in the 70s, as soon as we entered the EU. A big initial part was played by the late Enoch Powell.

Brexit comes from a combination of good old British xenophobia; nostalgia for the Empire; and a tendency, even among people who suffer from neither of the above, to be totally ignorant about the functions of the EU, and to blame it for things that are mostly the fault of our own government (I should know, I fell into that trap for a while in the past). And, like all organizations, it is not perfect, often over-bureacratic and sometimes corrupt. But all the alternatives are far worse.

If there were strong vested interests that tipped the balance, these probably involved tax-avoiding billionaires, some of them media owners, more than they involved Russia. Of course the Russian government meddles with everything to varying degrees, doubtless including Brexit, but the seeds of Brexit were sown when Putin was still an obscure student.

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Yes it's odd, there is no traction on the story. Of course the OnDoutside Oct 2017 #1
I've seen some discussion, for example Jarqui Oct 2017 #2
I really don't understand the purpose of such statements syringis Oct 2017 #4
I'm not as convinced that Jarqui Oct 2017 #5
2 very basic reasons syringis Oct 2017 #6
For many reasons syringis Oct 2017 #3
Almost everything you say applied to the American presidential election too muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #8
Hello Muriel syringis Oct 2017 #13
My French isn't great, but I can give it a go if you think you can express yourself better in it muriel_volestrangler Oct 2017 #14
Hello Muriel syringis Oct 2017 #16
Hi, Syringis Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #17
Hi Denzil Dc, you are welcome. syringis Oct 2017 #18
I posted about the issue of student disenfranchisement back in mid-2016: Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #19
Thank you, I will take a look syringis Oct 2017 #20
OK, I hadn't checked your profile and didn't realize you were Belgian. Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #21
Russia likes chaos for the sake of chaos Not Ruth Oct 2017 #7
Chaos creates and allows control. We are all living that nightmare everyday. democratisphere Oct 2017 #9
Hello Muriel syringis Oct 2017 #10
the facts would show its more than Russia spreading fake news and propaganda beachbum bob Oct 2017 #11
Because it wasn't a "Russian intel operation". Denzil_DC Oct 2017 #12
Russian intel may have got involved at the end but it's too simplistic to call it a 'Russian intel LeftishBrit Oct 2017 #15
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