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In reply to the discussion: Imagine you're in a mirror world and... [View all]4th law of robotics
(6,801 posts)29. You said it wasn't flirtation
now it is, but the environment made it inappropriate.
You also falsely compared it to "hey baby wanna fuck" instead of asking her to his room for coffee. Obviously the intent there was to have sex. But it was presented in a far less crude way and honestly, isn't the intent of many flirtations to engage in intercourse? You may consider yourself more charming but I'd guess you've spoken to another person with that intent before.
There are boundaries for appropriate flirtation as well, especially flirtation with strangers, and that was an example of when such flirtation is inappropriate. Another equivalent is "any parking garage ever". Do any of you even remotely get why?
Yes the two acceptable areas you would allow flirtation to occur would be between a couple set up by mutual friends or at a bar specifically catering to singles hoping to become couples (although presumably not past a certain hour and not outside the bar).
The fact that you all don't get, or refuse to admit publicly that you get, why such behavior is perceived by many women as threatening, creepy, scary, repulsive etc. is to me appalling. Until that discussion I thought the reputation of this group was undeserved. Now I think the attitudes routinely on display here are hugely problematic.
You refused to acknowledge any counter arguments and labeled the guy a serial killer/rapist. If every guy who hits on a woman clumsily then goes his own way when she says no is a rapist then our jails are going to be awfully full. You didn't get, or refused to admit that you got, that obvious point.
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From the guy who thinks men not flirt women they have not been formally introduced to.
Bonobo
Oct 2012
#7
If we are talking about the same discussion, i think your memory is faulty.
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#19
it went way past that example but lets re-examine flirtation with strangers
Warren Stupidity
Oct 2012
#24
Well, I meant it when I said I'm a good driver, and careful. So it's been years since I've even been
Warren DeMontague
Oct 2012
#14
Given the choice between that and being a gay black man, I'd choose the former.
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2012
#34
No, on a societal level, it certainly is not a privilege. However, on an individual level
Bonobo
Oct 2012
#36
It's simply a variation of doing a favor for someone because they are nice
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
Oct 2012
#38
Are you saying women don't wear tight clothing or brush their body parts up against men
4th law of robotics
Oct 2012
#40
I'd say yes on all points. Including the bleak implications of that observation.
lumberjack_jeff
Oct 2012
#41