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mbperrin

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5. Actually, a few facts need to be added.
Thu May 9, 2013, 04:20 PM
May 2013

This is an 18 year old sophomore, two years behind age level, one year because he dropped out, the other year apparently due to failing enough classes. His mother teaches in another district. One would suppose that because he came back, he has some internal motivation. But apparently, he thinks it is someone else's job to provide that for him.

Duncanville High School is a huge school and is rated Academically Acceptable by the state of Texas, which is a lot harder than people might think for a large school with a big minority enrollment and extensive free and reduced lunch students.

The teacher he's picking on is a Ms. Phung, who not only has her school web page up to date, she also has a youTube channel and a Pinterest site for her students to access for help anytime 24/7. She's in her 40s, been teaching a couple of decades, and teaches 5 classes of World History, a 10th grade class with two of those sections being inclusion classes, which means anything from special ed students to those on criminal probation, suspension from another school, 504 students which could include autistic, wheelchair-bound, deaf, or otherwise physically challenged students.

She also teaches an Asian studies class.

So the school has a good rating on state assessments, she obviously teaches multi-modally, he's in a class full of 15 year olds while he's 18, yeah, I'll just write him up as wanting some attention and having picked up some jargon from mom, all to cover up his embarassment at being so far behind where he should be.

I have a MAEd, so anytime a student actually challenges me on methods, I ask them if they have had fillings installed in their teeth or any other dental work, extractions, anything? When they say yes, then I remind them that they were there all along while the dentists worked on them, and so they wouldn't mind extracting or filling their own tooth next time, would they?

Protests. Then I have to point out the obvious: simply being around an educated practitioner does not mean that you can do any part of their job, that you are a consumer, and when consumers go against professional advice, they cut their toes off underneath lawn mowers, they poison themselves by leaving raw chicken on the counter, and they shoot themselves in the foot trying a quick draw.

Ms. Phung will be lucky she doesn't get fired, because teachers are lowest on the totem poles at schools, just a little below the janitorial staff, pretty far under the cafeteria staff, and only a speck to administration and central office personnel.

And that's too bad. Because then they can get a newbie who will need three years just to be able to have confidence that they are calling on children in a non-gendered, non-ethnic sequence, never mind all the rest of it.

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Righteous rant, dude! Wait Wut May 2013 #1
GOOD KID! elleng May 2013 #2
he's an idiot. First off, regardless of whether the teacher uses 'packets' or not, his approach HiPointDem May 2013 #35
Agreed proud2BlibKansan May 2013 #36
And part of that, is the school system needs to make the teachers want to do that Scootaloo May 2013 #3
Well stated. femmocrat May 2013 #4
Actually, a few facts need to be added. mbperrin May 2013 #5
Hm. Buzz Clik May 2013 #7
Ever known a dentist to let a patient be in total agony in the chair? mbperrin May 2013 #12
No. I've never known Novacaine to wear off in the chair. We disconnected on that. Buzz Clik May 2013 #14
I can't believe everyone is seeing a kid ranting at a teacher, with NO context, and everyone here Squinch May 2013 #8
Yes!!! Context!!! sadbear May 2013 #16
+1. And notice which posters. HiPointDem May 2013 #31
Yes. I noticed that too. Squinch May 2013 #33
It's basically just a kid acting up in class. proud2BlibKansan May 2013 #37
Thank you. It seems *everyone* thinks they can do the teacher's job better ... eppur_se_muova May 2013 #10
I'm sorry, I didn't realize a degree means you're immune from criticism Addison May 2013 #15
You really never have taught adolescents, have you? mbperrin May 2013 #18
+1! Squinch May 2013 #28
Not that, but people who aren't teachers don't really know what they are talking about duffyduff May 2013 #21
Its funny how they all think they do, though, isn't it? You could cut the ignorance - and the Squinch May 2013 #29
It takes a teacher to know something about education duffyduff May 2013 #19
He ought to go to adult school with more age appropriate classes. Starry Messenger May 2013 #22
Teacher is on admin leave for the duration of the investigation. knitter4democracy May 2013 #25
On leave because a kid went nuts in her classroom? proud2BlibKansan May 2013 #38
Supposedly, it's in hoping the story will die down. knitter4democracy May 2013 #39
+1 proud2BlibKansan May 2013 #34
Packets. Wow. He has a great point, and I hope this teacher learned. Buzz Clik May 2013 #6
On the other hand, the best history class I ever had in high school used solely packets. Squinch May 2013 #9
Good point. Buzz Clik May 2013 #11
Yes, but this video has no context whatsoever, so we don't know whether the Squinch May 2013 #13
+1 sadbear May 2013 #17
I find your last point especially compelling. knitter4democracy May 2013 #26
+1 HiPointDem May 2013 #32
In reality, LWolf May 2013 #40
Good analysis. I have no issue with anything you said. However,... Buzz Clik May 2013 #41
I know those kinds of packets exist out there. LWolf May 2013 #42
This reply *makes* the thread. Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #44
Thanks, Smarmie. LWolf May 2013 #45
The kid is a potential failure and wants to blame it on everybody but himself. duffyduff May 2013 #20
The kid failed once and is trying to succeed. He feels the the teacher doesn't care. Buzz Clik May 2013 #24
But we have no reason to assume that he is. Squinch May 2013 #27
Or he may be full of shit. Goblinmonger May 2013 #46
during the days in which this topic has been discussed... Buzz Clik May 2013 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author savebigbird May 2013 #23
Double Bind. no_hypocrisy May 2013 #30
Judd Nelson in The Breakfast Club. That and.... Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #43
This is the reality kids will have to learn bluestateguy Jan 2016 #48
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