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mbperrin

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18. You really never have taught adolescents, have you?
Thu May 9, 2013, 09:39 PM
May 2013

Not only do my students have a 98% pass rate over 3 decades on state tests, they have voted me their favorite senior social studies teacher 14 times.

Quite normal for them to challenge authority and to think they know more than they do. (Here's some fun "facts" 15-18 year olds have disclosed to me and the class over the last couple decades: if you douche with Dr. Pepper after sex, you can't get pregnant; if you take 3 aspirins before an exam, you will do better than if you study; you can drink yourself all the around back to sober; and - ugly girls are harder to get pregnant than pretty ones!)

So yes, it reassures them to know that people teaching them know more than they do - if they didn't, well, gee, I don't know. You're about to get an appendectomy, and the surgeon says, well, I've never really studied this, but I'll figure it out, and so you say, sure, go ahead, I want you to feel empowered.

I don't silence my students' criticisms - I teach them better when they are uninformed, and especially, downright wrong. I live in the neighborhood where I teach, and I see many dozens of the more than 8,000 I've taught over the years on a regular basis. In all cases, they are anxious to show me new degrees, babies, houses, jobs, paychecks, and other events in their lives.

I'm not in school to be their friend, although my overall demeanor is friendly. I'm surely not there to puff them up for no reason. What I'm really trying to do, and I tell them this frequently, is to make sure no one puts the con on them five minutes after graduation resulting in a lifetime of misery, poverty, and debt.

Now go get an actual instructional degree from an accredited program, concentrate on secondary, and then come back, and we'll talk technique. Until then, philosophy and attitudes are okay, but like I tell the young earth folks, you can have your own opinion. You just can't have your own facts.

Have a blessed day.

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Righteous rant, dude! Wait Wut May 2013 #1
GOOD KID! elleng May 2013 #2
he's an idiot. First off, regardless of whether the teacher uses 'packets' or not, his approach HiPointDem May 2013 #35
Agreed proud2BlibKansan May 2013 #36
And part of that, is the school system needs to make the teachers want to do that Scootaloo May 2013 #3
Well stated. femmocrat May 2013 #4
Actually, a few facts need to be added. mbperrin May 2013 #5
Hm. Buzz Clik May 2013 #7
Ever known a dentist to let a patient be in total agony in the chair? mbperrin May 2013 #12
No. I've never known Novacaine to wear off in the chair. We disconnected on that. Buzz Clik May 2013 #14
I can't believe everyone is seeing a kid ranting at a teacher, with NO context, and everyone here Squinch May 2013 #8
Yes!!! Context!!! sadbear May 2013 #16
+1. And notice which posters. HiPointDem May 2013 #31
Yes. I noticed that too. Squinch May 2013 #33
It's basically just a kid acting up in class. proud2BlibKansan May 2013 #37
Thank you. It seems *everyone* thinks they can do the teacher's job better ... eppur_se_muova May 2013 #10
I'm sorry, I didn't realize a degree means you're immune from criticism Addison May 2013 #15
You really never have taught adolescents, have you? mbperrin May 2013 #18
+1! Squinch May 2013 #28
Not that, but people who aren't teachers don't really know what they are talking about duffyduff May 2013 #21
Its funny how they all think they do, though, isn't it? You could cut the ignorance - and the Squinch May 2013 #29
It takes a teacher to know something about education duffyduff May 2013 #19
He ought to go to adult school with more age appropriate classes. Starry Messenger May 2013 #22
Teacher is on admin leave for the duration of the investigation. knitter4democracy May 2013 #25
On leave because a kid went nuts in her classroom? proud2BlibKansan May 2013 #38
Supposedly, it's in hoping the story will die down. knitter4democracy May 2013 #39
+1 proud2BlibKansan May 2013 #34
Packets. Wow. He has a great point, and I hope this teacher learned. Buzz Clik May 2013 #6
On the other hand, the best history class I ever had in high school used solely packets. Squinch May 2013 #9
Good point. Buzz Clik May 2013 #11
Yes, but this video has no context whatsoever, so we don't know whether the Squinch May 2013 #13
+1 sadbear May 2013 #17
I find your last point especially compelling. knitter4democracy May 2013 #26
+1 HiPointDem May 2013 #32
In reality, LWolf May 2013 #40
Good analysis. I have no issue with anything you said. However,... Buzz Clik May 2013 #41
I know those kinds of packets exist out there. LWolf May 2013 #42
This reply *makes* the thread. Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #44
Thanks, Smarmie. LWolf May 2013 #45
The kid is a potential failure and wants to blame it on everybody but himself. duffyduff May 2013 #20
The kid failed once and is trying to succeed. He feels the the teacher doesn't care. Buzz Clik May 2013 #24
But we have no reason to assume that he is. Squinch May 2013 #27
Or he may be full of shit. Goblinmonger May 2013 #46
during the days in which this topic has been discussed... Buzz Clik May 2013 #47
This message was self-deleted by its author savebigbird May 2013 #23
Double Bind. no_hypocrisy May 2013 #30
Judd Nelson in The Breakfast Club. That and.... Smarmie Doofus May 2013 #43
This is the reality kids will have to learn bluestateguy Jan 2016 #48
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