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6. In New Jersey, we live on the PJM grid, which was discussed with respect to cars and climate in the scientific...
Fri Apr 5, 2024, 12:41 PM
Apr 2024

...journal Environmental Science and Technology.

I covered it here: A paper addressing the idea that electric cars are "green."

Now, I drive a hybrid car - my second, the first one was wrecked - that ran about $40K. I can afford it, which is why I don't expect poor people to subsidize me and my lifestyle. Dammit, we have people who can't afford a roof over their head; who can't afford food and we need to be paid to feel holy about owning a fucking car?

Here's what I had to say in my post about the absurd idea that poor people (including the cobalt miners in the Congo River region who subsidized my hybrid car with their bodies and blood) should subsidize the rich, relative rich (which I am) or obscenely rich.

Reality is unpopular.

We. Just. Don't. Give. A. Shit.

Trump may be the most famous egregious liar on the planet but he's hardly the only one.

Once again, people lie to themselves and they lie to each other, but numbers don't lie.

History will not forgive us, nor should it.


Electric cars are no more sustainable than any other component of the car CULTure, and I have no patience for subsidizing any of it.

We need to subsidize our educational system so that people can think critically about rote sloganeering nonsense. I don't want to pay anyone to make Apartheid Elon (who used to be very popular here at DU) richer.

In New Jersey, as in many other places, electric cars run on at least partially coal and more prominently on natural gas. It's a disgrace, but its true.

You want an electric car? Then pay for it yourself.

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