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OKIsItJustMe

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6. Don't count on it
Mon May 27, 2024, 06:59 PM
May 2024

In Novacene, James Lovelock, perhaps most famous as the originator of the Gaia Hypothesis pointed out that the Sun has become hotter over its lifetime. We are no longer in the “habitable zone.” (AKA the “Goldilocks Zone.”) A theoretical distant astronomer, examining our solar system would see Mars as the best candidate for life, but it’s dead.

It’s only the ecosystem (AKA “Gaia”) which has kept the Earth cool enough for life to thrive. If we damage the ecosystem thoroughly enough, it may not be able to recover as it has recovered in the past. (He compared it to an elderly person, who can no longer recover from diseasea as easily as they once could.)

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The massive imbalance of species... Think. Again. May 2024 #1
Chicken? Egg? OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #5
No chickens, no eggs, just idiocy. Think. Again. May 2024 #7
In past ages, people had lots of children, because many of them would not survive to adulthood OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #10
Reducing excessive population levels would reduce energy needs. Think. Again. May 2024 #13
Are you proposing "culling?" Because we cannot wait for the decades it would take. OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #14
Yes, thanks, in any case, in regards to your OP... Think. Again. May 2024 #15
Don't suppose I was supporting the cause of the "pro-natalists." OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #16
And there it is. Brenda May 2024 #21
I don't get it either... Think. Again. May 2024 #22
Yeah, that and I suppose it could be part fundamentalist religious Brenda May 2024 #23
I've always thought... Think. Again. May 2024 #24
That's true. Brenda May 2024 #25
There's also a fear of "them" outnumbering "us" OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #35
See my post #26. -nt CrispyQ May 2024 #27
My point was... OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #31
We need a new economic system. We're consuming our planet for the profit of a few. CrispyQ May 2024 #26
Oh... There's some validity to the whole issue of an inverted pyramid OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #34
Yeah, I understand the money aspect and we def need a new system. Brenda May 2024 #36
I heard a climate scientist being interviewed recently who said that 50% of all non-pave land is devoted to agriculture. Lonestarblue May 2024 #28
Effective Altruism is a Cult Metaphorical May 2024 #2
Too many humans already for this Dear Rock named Earth. It'll still be here, and thrive, once Traurigkeit May 2024 #3
Don't count on it OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #6
The Earth will thrive, whatever that lives or not lives on surface doesn't really matter. Traurigkeit May 2024 #8
What Lovelock meant was that nothing might live OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #11
Limiting yourself to organics ? Traurigkeit May 2024 #17
Actually, Lovelock did not. OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #19
"If we damage the ecosystem thoroughly enough, it may not be able to recover..." CrispyQ May 2024 #29
I highly recommend John Brunner's 1972 novel, The Sheep Look Up OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #32
I know at least one. SarahD May 2024 #4
He had his Father's money, Elon didn't do anything. Traurigkeit May 2024 #9
Nature? Nurture? OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #12
Give the kids PLENTY of $$$ to nurture them well Traurigkeit May 2024 #18
Money is not a requirement, but (like genetics) it can certainly help OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #20
There's Another Way To Solve the Population Bomb Deep State Witch May 2024 #30
That's not the "population bomb" I'm concerned about OKIsItJustMe May 2024 #33
Immigration is key to US Survival Metaphorical May 2024 #37
Instead of billionaires birthing dozens of nepo-babies... Shipwack May 2024 #38
Hear Hear! Deep State Witch May 2024 #39
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