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Finishline42

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16. What has not been mentioned is when it all changed...
Sun Aug 4, 2024, 05:31 PM
Aug 2024

In 1750, the dawn of the industrial age, there were 750 million people that lived mainly thru farming land. Manufacturing changed from mainly work done by hand to using machines reducing cost and fostering innovation. And of course the increase in energy usage.

There are now over 8 billion people (10x) that are each using (pick a number) maybe thousands of times more energy during their lifetimes. We also create thousands of times more waste.

But what I consider astounding was during COVID when there was a huge drop in energy usage worldwide, the CO2 numbers from Mauna Loa didn't drop. Tells me that we are getting CO2 from environmental sources, not just from us. Methane from sea beds? Tundra thawing? Not sure at this point if it's reversible...

BTW - world population
1804 - 1 billion
1927 - 2 billion
1960 - 3 billion
1975 - 4 billion
1987 - 5 billion
1999 - 6 billion
2011 - 7 billion
2023 - 8 billion

https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/world-population-by-year/

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So let me get this straight [View all] JMCKUSICK Aug 2024 OP
It was gradually and then all of a sudden. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #1
Lol JMCKUSICK Aug 2024 #3
Ernest Hemingway said it. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #5
Huge impact of wide-spread fossil fuel use with oil well development in the late 19th century. brush Aug 2024 #7
The dark human underbelly of greed/corruption has always been present. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #9
All you say is true, but 150 is 'sudden' in terms of Earth's millions of years of existance. brush Aug 2024 #10
That's why I said gradually and then suddenly. Irish_Dem Aug 2024 #12
Well said. Think. Again. Aug 2024 #2
We killed off the wooly mammoth and the sabertooth tiger... Beakybird Aug 2024 #4
That happens as nature fights for survival JMCKUSICK Aug 2024 #6
I'd say the huge meteor that struck the Earth centuries ago had a lot to do with... brush Aug 2024 #11
not quite Cirsium Aug 2024 #18
Hahahahahaha. Just 64 years ago? I thought he was much older. brush Aug 2024 #19
And "Better Living Through Chemistry"......NOT Clouds Passing Aug 2024 #8
No, you didn't get that right Random Boomer Aug 2024 #13
I think the difference between these last hundred years or so JMCKUSICK Aug 2024 #14
History shows a much different story Random Boomer Aug 2024 #15
What has not been mentioned is when it all changed... Finishline42 Aug 2024 #16
For at least 99,900 years, yes years, we lived in relative harmony with planet Earth. ??? Sean Andalou Aug 2024 #17
Many people point to the birth of agriculture (roughly 10,000 years ago) as the beginning of the end. OKIsItJustMe Aug 2024 #20
We live better than Kings of 100 years ago LiberaBlueDem Aug 2024 #21
Neat thread.nt jfz9580m Aug 2024 #22
Bump.nt jfz9580m Aug 2024 #23
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