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3. Oh, using it for a stupid purpose makes using "less of it" OK? Wait, wait, I'm sorry, a "hydrogen economy" has been...
Sat Dec 7, 2024, 04:54 PM
Dec 7

...discussed in the primary scientific literature, so it must be OK.

Here is a paper about the "transition" to a hydrogen economy:

E.M. Dickson, J.W. Ryan, M.H. Smulyan, Systems considerations and transition scenarios for the hydrogen economy, International Journal of Hydrogen Energy,

The article includes this text in the summary:

...it can be argued convincingly that a combination electric/hydrogen economy is ultimately inevitable...


There's a nice chart in the full paper telling us when we can see 100% penetration for various technologies.

For private autos, we could see 100% penetration "by 2000" according to the chart. Could, could, could, could...".

Oh, I have to apologize again, I seem not to included relevant information about the publication, the issue, volume and year of the publication: E.M. Dickson, J.W. Ryan, M.H. Smulyan, Systems considerations and transition scenarios for the hydrogen economy, International Journal of Hydrogen Energy, Volume 1, Issue 1, 1976, Pages 11-21,

I wonder if, when this paper was published in 1976, any of the people musing about the argument that "convincingly that a combination electric/hydrogen economy is ultimately inevitable..." bothered to muse that "by December of 2024, the concentration of carbon dioxide could be reported thus:

Week beginning on December 01, 2024: 424.82 ppm
Weekly value from 1 year ago: 420.74 ppm
Weekly value from 10 years ago: 398.77 ppm
Last updated: December 07, 2024

Weekly average CO2 at Mauna Loa Accessed 12/07/2024.

In the week beginning December 5, 1976, the concentration of CO2 in the planetary atmosphere as measured as the soon to be silenced Mauna Loa observatory was 331.19 ppm.

What's 93.65 ppm between friends when we've just spent close to half a century talking about "green" hydrogen?

I am at a total loss to discover why anyone who gives a shit about environmental issues, or at least pretends to do so, is still fucking talking about hydrogen at all. Of course, there are a lot of people who think they're giving a shit, because they lack enough education and knowledge to understand they are doing the exact opposite. It's not really an excuse, but it is a reality.

A "hydrogen economy" is a marketing scam designed totally and completely to greenwash fossil fuels.

A Giant Climate Lie: When they're selling hydrogen, what they're really selling is fossil fuels.

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