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AtheistCrusader

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19. Great, you just compared an apple to a brick.
Wed Aug 1, 2012, 12:15 PM
Aug 2012

The steel-framed components of the Windsor Tower collapsed to the ground less than 3 hours into that fire. THAT is the only valid part of your analogy. (And it tends to prove the uncontrolled/unopposed fire in WTC7 causing the collapse of the building)

What you see still standing after the Windsor Tower fire is ONLY the components of the building that are concrete pillars. Fire does damage concrete, through spalling, but it was negligible in this case. Had WTC7 been built like the Windsor Tower, it probably would have survived.


"The structure was divided into two halves by a technical floor without windows. It was a very solid building, with a central core of reinforced concrete that resisted the high temperatures of the fire without collapsing."

WTC 7 did not have the concrete core that you see standing in the aftermath of the Windsor Tower fire. But look carefully at the aftermath. You might notice the shape of the building is quite different from the pre-fire photos. That is because the sections of the building that WERE steel-framed construction, are gone. They failed and collapsed to the ground. If you watch the news footage of the fire, you can see those components collapsing at about the 3 hour mark. Why some of those components failed faster can be explained in differences in construction method, the amount of load the metal was required to bear (Windsor only had some sections of some floors in steel-frame, smaller building only 29 stories, etc.) or fuel sources available inside, different fireproof ratings on furnishings and materials present, etc.

Basically, your analogy tends to prove WTC7 collapsed as a direct result of the un-fought fire.

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Why not just blow out a couple floors deconstruct911 Jan 2012 #2
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Bay bridge collapse gyroscope Jan 2012 #12
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DUzy! Lol. (nt) (nr) T S Justly Jan 2012 #10
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Nope! Politicalboi Mar 2012 #14
When exactly sabbat hunter Mar 2012 #17
Great, you just compared an apple to a brick. AtheistCrusader Aug 2012 #19
Yes WTC 7 was fragile LOL! Politicalboi Mar 2012 #18
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