Creative Speculation

William Seger

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41. Abject nonsense

Tue Sep 4, 2012, 11:00 AM

Sep 2012

A transponder is a simple, self-contained radio receiver/transmitter device that responds when it receives a command. It is not controlled by any software or connected to any other plane systems. And, BTW, nobody could dial four digits into a transponder in two seconds, even if they weren't under attack, and even if that were their number one priority -- neither of which was the case.

> then we must consider the possibility of full operational control of the aircraft.

Absolutely not possible with a standard 757 or 767, so you must further "consider the possibility" that rigging these four planes for remote control was just another step in the Rube Goldberg conspiracy that you imagine.

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Does Spooked911 Post Anywhere? [View all] jberryhill Aug 2012 OP

This message was self-deleted by its author zappaman Aug 2012 #1

The first post is from the future LARED Aug 2012 #2

I hate to ask but... Would you delete the link to his blog? Ohio Joe Aug 2012 #3

I second the request to delete. eomer Aug 2012 #4

Whoa..I did not see that. zappaman Aug 2012 #5

Yeah... I didn't know he'd wandered onto that reservation... jberryhill Aug 2012 #6

Well, he did once say he believed almost every conspiracy out there zappaman Aug 2012 #7

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I saw the link before it was deleted. Bolo Boffin Aug 2012 #13

Spooked probably always was firmly planted on that reservation as I recall he LARED Aug 2012 #9

Conspiracy theorists are all anti-Semites. Codeine Aug 2012 #10

Maybe he gave up..... Frank_Norris_Lives Aug 2012 #11

What legitimate questions? zappaman Aug 2012 #12

The legitimate question in his post I linked to... Frank_Norris_Lives Aug 2012 #14

Maybe because the pilots were busy fighting for their lives zappaman Aug 2012 #15

The airline pilots Frank_Norris_Lives Aug 2012 #16

You do realize that prior to 9/11 pilots were trained to LARED Aug 2012 #17

Are proposing that.... Frank_Norris_Lives Aug 2012 #18

Again....let's suppose someone comes at you with a boxcutter zappaman Aug 2012 #19

No I'm proposing that given the choice LARED Aug 2012 #20

I would hazard to guess that ..... Frank_Norris_Lives Aug 2012 #21

Have a great day LARED Aug 2012 #22

Can we clarify your standpoint first? Frank_Norris_Lives Aug 2012 #23

No. I've been through this silliness for years. I can't even remember all the details at this point LARED Aug 2012 #24

Can't wait to hear the explanation. zappaman Aug 2012 #25

I think we are definitely in no planer territory. LARED Aug 2012 #26

Well, you didn't contest my summary of your viewpoint so... Frank_Norris_Lives Aug 2012 #28

So does that mean you are an LARED Aug 2012 #29

Plane Swapping... Frank_Norris_Lives Sep 2012 #33

"It would seem to me that someone screwed with the plane's software." zappaman Aug 2012 #30

I'm willing to up the odds this a plane swapper truther LARED Aug 2012 #32

Plane swapping... Ghost in the Machine Sep 2012 #37

On paper it's possible even though Operations Northwoods never occurred LARED Sep 2012 #42

"On paper it's possible even though Operations Northwoods never occurred" Ghost in the Machine Sep 2012 #43

Adding actual evidenace to the discussion would be great LARED Sep 2012 #44

This message was self-deleted by its author Frank_Norris_Lives Sep 2012 #34

A stretch is believing..... Frank_Norris_Lives Sep 2012 #40

We've seen remote controllers before jberryhill Sep 2012 #49

"There was a ghost in the machine before the hijackers got their hands on the pilots.." Ghost in the Machine Sep 2012 #35

Don't guess... Frank_Norris_Lives Sep 2012 #36

That's where my name came from... back in my old days of hacking.... Ghost in the Machine Sep 2012 #38

If we conclude that the comms were remotely cut via software control, then we must consider..... Frank_Norris_Lives Sep 2012 #39

Abject nonsense William Seger Sep 2012 #41

Mousetrap! Loved it as a kid! Not required here though..... Frank_Norris_Lives Sep 2012 #45

Yes, Mode S returns pressure altitude William Seger Sep 2012 #46

No software in a transponder? Frank_Norris_Lives Sep 2012 #47

OK, I'll accept that William Seger Sep 2012 #48

Hey Ghost jberryhill Sep 2012 #50

LMAO! :-) Ghost in the Machine Sep 2012 #51

Musta been a ghost in the radio machine jberryhill Sep 2012 #52

I assume that the pilots would have been wearing seatbelts? cpwm17 Aug 2012 #27

Oh, please. The pilots were not Chuck Norris. Flatulo Sep 2012 #53

I'm afraid you missed the point... Frank_Norris_Lives Sep 2012 #54

My Kenpo instructor was a marine combat vet. He's probably about 60 now, Flatulo Sep 2012 #55

There's a previous incident that might provide some illumination. AZCat Sep 2012 #56

Worth noting that it was a three-man crew, and they all sustained severe injuries, Flatulo Sep 2012 #57

Yes. The bizarre twists and turns the aircraft made... AZCat Sep 2012 #58

I hope the Shadow Government didn't get him Ter Aug 2012 #31