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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Tue Jun 11, 2019, 08:27 AM Jun 2019

Are you literally f*cking kidding me? [View all]

Last edited Thu Jun 13, 2019, 05:04 PM - Edit history (4)

Let me tell you a tale of Patriarchy 101 in one of the most diverse cities in the world in 2019.

I am at the senior executive management meeting. I am, of course, the only woman in a sea of men. I am the Director of and run a division which requires an in-depth knowledge of industry specific requirements, a knowledge that I have built up over 20 years in very senior management roles within this particular landscape. None of the other Directors (including the Managing Director) have other than surface knowledge of the complexity of delivery in my division. My division is also the most profitable in the business by miles.

I was leading a discussion on a highly technical detail that was creating barriers to the successful delivery of one of my products and I was interrupted to be told that that was not possible. It did not make sense. The Managing Director then proceeded to go around the table asking every single man there did they not agree that it did not make sense. They all agreed with the Managing Director. One fellow director even suggested that he would ask one of my middle tier managers (another man) for clarification.

Are you literally fucking kidding me? Which is exactly what I said at the top of my voice. I explained very clearly that as the only expert in the room, how dare they suggest that because they did not understand something / did not like the answer that they felt they could imply I did not know what I was taking about. What. The. Actual. Fuck.

The Managing Director apologised. None of my colleagues who were so keen to diminish my expertise in what seemed to be a spontaneous male bonding session of bollocks did not.

Told ya…. A tale of Patriarchy 2019.

I want to punch a wall.
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EDIT: GMT 1635

A lot of the comments have asked about why I don't move on. I explained this is a comment I thought I would copy and paste here also....
I was working for a company that was hugely female centric as a Director for a number of years. This company was purchased last year and I was the only Director they asked to move across to lead a division, which is essentially my old company...with some part of their company reversed into it. I have committed to staying for a year to ensure the staff that where brought across from the old company are fully settled and leaving before this will risk their stability and I am not prepared to do that. I get head hunted regularly, as I am in a very niche and specialist market place, and am well know within it. I will make the move eventually, but it needs to be in a time and place where I know I have built and sustained my colleagues to be able to cope without me. I know that sounds big headed but it is not meant to be. They had a torrid time during the buy out and if I leave at the moment I fear the work I have put into seeing them settled will be for nought.

This is the first time in my career I have been the only woman in the executive team. To say it is somewhat different is an understatement!
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Update here https://www.democraticunderground.com/113912846

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I threw in the towel snowybirdie Jun 2019 #1
Good on you!! In 2019 it's awful that this still happens but spooky3 Jun 2019 #2
I am angry, too Ohiogal Jun 2019 #3
Coming from the top, patriarchy is gaining momentum. Bluepinky Jun 2019 #4
It's not just so they can freely engage in "locker room talk" Ligyron Jun 2019 #16
I guess I was more fortunate. trev Jun 2019 #28
That is brutal PatSeg Jun 2019 #5
My wife runs into this all the time underpants Jun 2019 #6
i've run into this all of my career as well onetexan Jun 2019 #22
I have many questions for you irisblue Jun 2019 #7
Yes, leave...and make them pay by.... machoneman Jun 2019 #10
The answer to this is rather complex Soph0571 Jun 2019 #11
Thank you for sharing. We need to hear more of these stories. Nitram Jun 2019 #8
I don't miss the corporate good old boy world... BooScout Jun 2019 #9
Don't punch the wall............ MyOwnPeace Jun 2019 #12
Just out of curiosity... WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2019 #13
Are there any minorities that might support you? IronLionZion Jun 2019 #14
I explained why I can't leave right now here: Soph0571 Jun 2019 #17
I know it looks bad but.... K-Dog Jun 2019 #15
Welcome to DU! IronLionZion Jun 2019 #18
I've seen this happen a lot Locrian Jun 2019 #20
Directors are the most senior team within a company. We are the Board of Directors. Soph0571 Jun 2019 #33
And update your resume? marble falls Jun 2019 #19
Tell them what Gen. George S. Patton was wont to say. Kid Berwyn Jun 2019 #21
I love that quote pandr32 Jun 2019 #23
That's exactly how Republicans roll. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #27
Why should YOU move on? Who would ask that? LisaM Jun 2019 #24
Knuckle-dragging mouth-breathers... czarjak Jun 2019 #25
Easy and common to happen! I always get buy in before meetings. Laura PourMeADrink Jun 2019 #26
In my last job trev Jun 2019 #29
Soph, I wish you could just buy the damn place. KY_EnviroGuy Jun 2019 #30
Brava, Soph, excellent post as always. saidsimplesimon Jun 2019 #31
LOL. Cash is the best revenge!!!! n/t Soph0571 Jun 2019 #34
I've had this happen in faculty meetings. a la izquierda Jun 2019 #32
I once had the audacity Ginger42 Jun 2019 #35
🤬 BlancheSplanchnik Jun 2019 #41
You had the right(ful) reaction!❤ Karadeniz Jun 2019 #36
My compliments on your ethics and professionalism - it is not as common as it needs to be GeoWilliam750 Jun 2019 #37
You have integrity. It should follow you well. LiberalFighter Jun 2019 #38
Kudos to you for speaking up so strikingly and having the heart to stay for your more junior team. JudyM Jun 2019 #39
On behalf of your employees, I would like to thank you. Maybe they know pnwmom Jun 2019 #40
My wife spent 20 years in the military Farmer-Rick Jun 2019 #42
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