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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 07:03 AM Mar 2021

#notallmen- cause while women talk about violence, make sure no mens feelings are hurt 👀 [View all]



I’m not here to mansplain the experiences of women. My point is that this commentary was responded to by men insisting that they not be tarred with the same brush. While women talked about their experiences of rape, sexual assault and daily street harassment, the only response men could come up with was to wave their little victim arms for fear that they be thought of badly. Social media even came up with #notallmen, just to make sure no boy feelings were hurt.

And yes – even here I have to do it – not all men responded this way. Not even most of them. There you go, diddums.

Yet the fact that even a minority of men insisted that an exception be made in the normal social contract illuminates the problem. It’s about territory. While women spoke about their experiences and fears, (some) men felt they had the right to barge in and try to dominate the terms of that conversation; many with the express aim of trying to de-genderise the issue: it’s about crime, not the behaviour of (some) men. Some of the (some) men even tried a self-defeating equivalence by pointing out that men suffer more from violent crime. From other men.

[link:https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/people/sean-moncrieff-of-course-most-men-are-not-rapists-why-does-this-need-to-be-said-1.4511921#.YFWl3LIj_T4.twitter
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For (some) men, they need to hijack the conversation women and girls are having because for (some) men their fragile ego's can't take it when the conversation is not all about them, or about calling them out for their behaviours which (may) endanger women, they need to make it all about them. Misogyny can by about benign neglect of the danger and women face as much as it can be the cat caller or the rapist... but #notallmen mansplaining to women and girls that their lived experience must be wrong, because as (some) men they NEED to make it all about them...


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K&R. n/t ms liberty Mar 2021 #1
And it's not just about the street.... zentrum Mar 2021 #2
KNR. niyad Mar 2021 #3
I raised four daughters born in the 1960's. BarbD Mar 2021 #4
Kicked and Recommended. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2021 #5
haha ancianita Mar 2021 #10
I doubt I'm clever enough to do whatever you thought I was doing. I was just remembering... FailureToCommunicate Mar 2021 #16
Yup. ancianita Mar 2021 #17
Whew. Now I'm just happy to be on the same page as one of the cool people here. FailureToCommunicate Mar 2021 #20
#notallmen is so predictable Random Boomer Mar 2021 #6
#notallmen is the equivalent of #alllivesmatter flibbitygiblets Mar 2021 #7
In the defense of men by a woman - if it's allowed in this group NH Ethylene Mar 2021 #8
"All men as the enemy" ancianita Mar 2021 #12
That is very thought provoking. NH Ethylene Mar 2021 #15
When having a discussion about whites or Christians I feel no need to state not me. LizBeth Mar 2021 #13
The issue for me is this Soph0571 Mar 2021 #18
You make good points. NH Ethylene Mar 2021 #23
It will take a massive realignment of our teaching curriculum to combat this disease. cayugafalls Mar 2021 #9
Back when I taught "women's literature," we tackled this need for realignment at the classroom level ancianita Mar 2021 #14
I had an Emily Litella moment with the title ybbor Mar 2021 #11
Please know we appreciate you Soph0571 Mar 2021 #19
As a transitioning woman vercetti2021 Mar 2021 #21
The worst adjusted people in my family are women Habitation Mar 2021 #22
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