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bbgrunt

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24. yes, I thought Asli's pairing at the end
Sun Sep 13, 2020, 05:49 PM
Sep 2020

was perfect except for the fact that he was so detached from her that he was willing to start a new life with Elif in Rome. A little weird, but then, Asli was unique herself. Maybe all she really needed was a distance relationship.

Nulifer made the break with her sisters in a long battle for independence and validation she only found with Fatih.....so how they end up is probably appropriate although fugitives in their own city without any means of support doesn't bode well for the long run.

Your diminished annoyance with Melike on second view is probably partially due to her redemption after being unshackled from the emotionally and physically abusive relationship with H. and being allowed to take charge of her own life and engage in something productive. Besides, she was really generous with Omer in the end--telling him to worry about himself and not his family duties.

I understand that there was a lot of controversy over the final episode--not sure exactly because it was mostly in foreign social media, but it had to do with Elif's ultimatum. Omer was being a dick and not willing to even broach the subject of leaving police work to enjoy a more normal life although that had been a focus throughout the series. I think there were a lot of Fatmas out there insisting that Elif was duty bound to follow his directives rather than force him out of that life path. The final joyous scenes of "you can't choose your family" and independence from historical family ties was viewed by some as very corrosive to the social order. (as it definitely was, for better or worse)

It's interesting that one of the things I found so intriguing about Turkish society (the family connections) is one of the things that this series ultimately denigrates. However, the negative patriarchal influences are kept intact through such family structures. So just like the push and pull of the relationship between Omer and Elif, there is a constant push and pull between family and individual independence.

I'm in Elif's camp, and wish I had her spidey sense of when and how to choose the battles to fight....and she certainly did know how to accessorize! Btw, I love this description:

High and mighty Omer pushes her away, she says, "Okay, fine." and he's lost. Rinse - repeat. The old culture has him in its clutches. But he took a deep dive into the Golden Palace of the Himalayas and came up with his eyes twinkling. There was no doubt that Tayyar's days were numbered.

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it's a very interesting show bbgrunt Aug 2020 #1
Thanks! Now I see why some epsidoes pick up exactly where they left off... eleny Aug 2020 #2
Is it subtitled in English? If yes, even more exhausting Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2020 #3
At least the subtitles stay on the screen long enough to read them eleny Aug 2020 #8
Lol!! So aren't the " too fast to read" subtitles beacsuse Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2020 #10
I'm not getting that impression eleny Aug 2020 #11
I just find that Scandinavian folk speak really fast. Fla Dem Sep 2020 #17
PS. Still our Netflix fav. "Manhunt" Australian TV show Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2020 #4
I think it is called "Wanted" on Netflix and bbgrunt Aug 2020 #6
Yes, 'WANTED"- big duh on my part. Any other Netflix hot tips? Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2020 #7
I've got to check this out eleny Sep 2020 #27
Hope you like it! Laura PourMeADrink Sep 2020 #29
ha! you did well! bbgrunt Aug 2020 #5
Yes, about the family ties that develop eleny Aug 2020 #9
wow, you're just chugging on through bbgrunt Aug 2020 #12
Just finished Saturday evening - Random thoughts eleny Sep 2020 #13
some great observations bbgrunt Sep 2020 #14
Scent of a Woman! (Beware Spoilers) eleny Sep 2020 #15
Oh, be still my heart! bbgrunt Sep 2020 #16
Two thoughts with spoilage eleny Sep 2020 #18
well, this is in response to your later post--(two thoughts with spoilage) to counteract bbgrunt Sep 2020 #19
Nilufer's result - spoilers eleny Sep 2020 #20
yes, I thought Asli's pairing at the end bbgrunt Sep 2020 #24
Quick note of full disclosure! eleny Sep 2020 #33
P.S. What's the SK series? nt eleny Sep 2020 #21
SK refers to Sefirin Kizi which I mentioned in an earlier post bbgrunt Sep 2020 #22
"Engin stuff"? Never boring eleny Sep 2020 #23
For Sefirin Kizi there is bbgrunt Sep 2020 #25
So the female lead in Fatmagul is also the lead in the current Netflix series, The Gift eleny Sep 2020 #26
We've been talking about the ending a little - Spoilers eleny Sep 2020 #28
I see you are thoroughly enjoying the 2nd view bbgrunt Sep 2020 #30
I agree ---- Spoilers eleny Sep 2020 #34
The lead in Fatmagul and the Gift bbgrunt Sep 2020 #31
I like her a lot eleny Sep 2020 #32
All I can say is bbgrunt Sep 2020 #35
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