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murielm99

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27. Yes. My mother probably has narcissistic personality disorder.
Thu Dec 22, 2011, 02:24 AM
Dec 2011

It is difficult to diagnose, and no one would ever get her to a therapist anyway. She is too perfect. But my therapist, and my brothers therapist BOTH suggested that that is her problem.

She is 83, but so ornery that she will outlive us all.

My mother loves to cause trouble within the family. My niece despises her so much that she did not tell her she was getting married, and did not invite her to the wedding. Mom has never met any of her great grandchildren, because none of her grandchildren will visit her.

I will only visit her if there are several other family members present. Three years ago, I went to see her and I was pretty sure she was going to attack me physically when my husband was in the bathroom.

My dad now has dementia. He is 86. She is mostly housebound with him, so things are getting worse. He should be in a nursing home, but she refuses to allow it. There is nothing we can do about it.

For awhile, I was having my husband listen in on all phone conversations, because her phone conversations had become so abusive. She behaved for awhile, but that is starting again.

I call my mother once a month and let her talk. If I have to ask my husband to listen, I do. Then I let her know that I have a witness, so she better not try to start arguments or call other family members and tell lies about me.

At the moment, she seems to trust my middle brother. He can talk to her, but he can't get her to make any changes, especially in regards to my father's care. She wants to care for him at home. I think she is doing a good job. It is the first time I have ever seen her behave unselfishly. Of course, she is able to let everyone know what a martyr she is, caring for her increasingly frail spouse.

Just let your mother talk. Visit her when you can. Try to figure out whom she trusts, if anyone. If you have to get her into a nursing home or assisted care program, you may need to enlist the aid of a doctor, a family member she trusts, or a mental health worker. My brother and I have been trying to get that sort of network in place, because we may need it in the near future.

Good luck.

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This message was self-deleted by its author [View all] Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 OP
My parents aren't like that, but I've met people like that before. Tobin S. Dec 2011 #1
Tobin, Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #2
IT seems to me that you are not getting the point. MedicalAdmin Dec 2011 #24
Yes. She has always been the way you describe, to a degree, EFerrari Dec 2011 #3
thanks for reading/listening Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #4
Yep. Talking on the phone is mostly listening on the phone EFerrari Dec 2011 #5
yes, you are right -- Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #6
That is exactly like my wifes relationship with her mom. MedicalAdmin Dec 2011 #25
Yes....very challenging - more complex than simply narcissism in my case - NRaleighLiberal Dec 2011 #7
yes, very challenging. My mom is 74 and this past year Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #8
Right back at you, friend! It is a really tough time.... NRaleighLiberal Dec 2011 #9
also, I can relate to your brother because, as the only daughter, I know the care-giving role will Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #11
It is hard - he is in FL, me in NC - we've lived away from each other for many years, NRaleighLiberal Dec 2011 #14
makes the Holiday season challenging to say the least Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #16
Do you remember how on "Everybody Loves Raymond", his parents were kicked out EFerrari Dec 2011 #10
My mom is cagey and clever - I suspect that she comes across very different there NRaleighLiberal Dec 2011 #12
So true! EFerrari Dec 2011 #13
Yes,,,, KarenS Dec 2011 #15
yes, the normal give and take of a relationship. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #17
I don't know that this is a Mental Health issue postatomic Dec 2011 #18
confusion here because of your subjectline Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #19
Narcissism is a mental health issue Tobin S. Dec 2011 #20
yes, thanks. Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #21
You're in the right place. Tobin S. Dec 2011 #22
you are fine here. mopinko Dec 2011 #23
My apologies postatomic Dec 2011 #31
no, but I have an aging ex-spouse with Narcissistic Personality Disorder who still... grasswire Dec 2011 #26
Yes. My mother probably has narcissistic personality disorder. murielm99 Dec 2011 #27
This message was self-deleted by its author HereSince1628 Dec 2011 #28
If we are talkng about parents, one thing that worked for me to a degree EFerrari Dec 2011 #29
My therapist taught me coping techniques. murielm99 Dec 2011 #33
My mom not only didn't have good boundaries or help me get them EFerrari Dec 2011 #34
Merry Christmas, Tuesday Afternoon! targetpractice Dec 2011 #30
thanks Tuesday Afternoon Dec 2011 #32
My parents are deceased, but I do have an aging, narcisistic sister who just "disowned" me whathehell Jan 2012 #35
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