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lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
37. Yes, it's true.
Wed Jun 29, 2016, 02:02 PM
Jun 2016

We've been talking here for a long time about these exact issues. One of the first things we discussed here and in the Barack Obama group, shortly after Sanders announced his candidacy, was how difficult it would be for him to get the large majority of Obama coalition behind his candidacy in large enough numbers to beat Clinton, who helped campaign for President Obama and who served as his Secretary of State.

There were a lot of nasty paternalistic posts from anti-Clinton and pro-Sanders people. To me now, it's all water under the bridge. I haven't forgotten how ignorant they were though, they were so full of righteous scorn and wishful thinking. It most definitely opened my eyes to ignorance and hate and white privilege that can exist among people who call themselves 'progressive' or more precisely 'more progressive than thou.' I've even stopped using the term progressive because it sickened me so much. I now call myself liberal. Attacking people online for not being 'progressive enough' has got to be one of the stupidest wastes of time I can possibly imagine.

Another thing the Sanders campaign has taught me (and I blame his most rabid supporters more than I blame Bernie) is that one doesn't convince others by berating and insulting them at every turn. I've also found that I prefer talking with my friends here in this group over talking with some dangerously hysterical people in other groups who seem to rack up thousands of posts with nothing but hatred and scorn for every liberal who actually spends their entire lives trying to make the world a better place.

Ah well, it's over now. I do hope his campaign has sparked some good things among those who supported him. Primarily, the desire to get involved to improve the political system by running for local and state and congressional elections. And by interacting with many more people like us, who recognize that social issues and political and economic issues are largely about treating others with dignity and respect.

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It isn't a Democrats racial rift" though. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #1
Opinions are just that... freebrew Jun 2016 #2
Sorry to pop your bubble, but I form my own opinions. tonyt53 Jun 2016 #3
Bubble? freebrew Jun 2016 #4
Wait...he didn't promise free college education? Hmmm.... Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #8
He did JustAnotherGen Jun 2016 #13
So that's your free stuff? freebrew Jun 2016 #15
Can't say I disagree, but the claim was that Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #16
Thanks for the civil response... freebrew Jun 2016 #17
"Free" stuff, college or whatever, is a Republican right wing frame... Human101948 Jun 2016 #29
How about Bernie who? An independent from a small, nearly all-white state . . . brush Jun 2016 #18
All that is spin from the other side... freebrew Jun 2016 #20
What? romana Jun 2016 #21
Tell that to the independents that didn't get to vote.. freebrew Jun 2016 #25
Or romana Jun 2016 #27
Register? ... freebrew Jun 2016 #34
No. mercuryblues Jun 2016 #33
He said it loudly, though. He said that the smarter voters were in the North and West. Now, that's Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #30
When did he say that "the smarter voters were in the North and West?" Human101948 Jun 2016 #31
Troll Jennylynn Jun 2016 #28
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jun 2016 #32
Whites are still the majority in the nation Larkspur Jun 2016 #5
WRONG! Black voters aren't stupid. We are not TOLD HOW to vote. Try again and stop with the Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #7
Or, black people couldn't stand him having a person who called Obama a form of nigger last uponit7771 Jun 2016 #36
Many of us people of color here at DU have been making these arguments from the very beginning and Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #6
A Bernie supporter agrees. nt SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #10
Thank you!! Liberal_Stalwart71 Jun 2016 #11
Well, it was obvious to the most casual observer, SusanCalvin Jun 2016 #12
And we've got 2-3 black people who do absolutely nothing but love to run around DU acting as though Number23 Jun 2016 #14
Woohoo! That's how to tell 'em. brush Jun 2016 #19
All of this. zappaman Jun 2016 #23
Yep. Quayblue Jun 2016 #24
Yes, it's true. lovemydog Jun 2016 #37
I agree jazzwinders Jun 2016 #35
Hot damn ismnotwasm Jun 2016 #22
Informed voters diligent sleeper Jun 2016 #26
Enough with the "AA voters are ignorant because they won't vote for Bernie" bullshit. emulatorloo Jun 2016 #38
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