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Bernardo de La Paz

(51,101 posts)
10. Rate is very important and has everything to do with it. Jesse Williams is correct.
Sun Sep 25, 2016, 10:55 AM
Sep 2016

Please debate civilly. Nothing I have written would lead a reasonable person to write the crap you have written about me:

why are 2 out of 3 police shootings OK with you based only on the race of the person shot? Odd....


It is not OK. http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8186252

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To date in 2016 there have been 793 people in the US killed by the police. For Black citizens, the number killed by police is 4.86/million; for White citizens the number killed by police is 1.96/million.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=8186062


In confrontations with police, they are more likely to negotiate with white people. They are more likely to issue orders calmly and give the white person enough time to comply. Obviously not in every case either way, but more often than for African Americans.

For black people, the police are more likely to shout multiple orders in quick succession. They are less likely to de-escalate. Also I think that when the bulletin comes over the police radio that a "black man" has a gun or is "committing" a crime, the police are more likely to have prejudices kick in, most often not fully consciously. Again, obviously not in every case, but more often than it happens with whites.

The key concept is the "tipping point". Whenever there is a binary event (a shot is fired or not fired) the tipping point analysis is enlightening.

The thing is that there are so many moments in confrontations where a small difference might be the tipping point. Plus small differences of escalation versus de-escalation add up.

In a confrontation if there are (for example) ten moments, and whites get the benefit (de-escalation, sufficient time, etc.) in 6 of 10 versus 5 for AAs (for example), then in thousands of confrontations the tipping point will be reached in more cases with blacks than whites.

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As to murder convictions, the same principles apply: whites get better lawyers, better presumption of innocence, less like to be the subject of DA / prosecutor / police / jury prejudice, and the benefit of small incremental differences that can add up to acquittal or reduction of charge. Even subtle things like more likely to have a suit to wear in court and more likely to speak with educated / "standard" American English add up.

But this is not to forget a huge difference: blacks are more likely to get charged in the first place, again for multiple reasons many of which are very subtle.

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