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JHan

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42. You don't insult your base by diminishing the perniciousness of racism.

Thu Jun 15, 2017, 02:06 PM

Jun 2017

When your base is most affected by it,,,Deplorable is besides the point, it is an observation that is true unless you want to deny it. You persist in being more outraged over this being pointed out than the fuckery itself.

And I am tired of the stupid corporatist meme which has done significant damage to the democratic brand. One party in America is beholden to corporatist interests and it ain't the democrats.

EDIT: if you want to make a salient argument about clever ways to reach out to these people ( admittedly deplorable was politically problematic for Clinton) I'm all for it, but being empathetic does not mean you excuse fuckery, white wash it, pretend it doesn't exist or it wasn't a factor.

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So, why the continual denial that race was a big factor in the election? by certain liberals even? [View all] JHan Apr 2017 OP

Good read. Great site lunasun Apr 2017 #1

it's cathartic for sure :) JHan Apr 2017 #2

It's helpful especially when tired lunasun Apr 2017 #3

They hide behind it being HRC on the losing end bigbrother05 Apr 2017 #4

well said... and "The Gaslight Hour" should be the official description of the 2016 election. JHan Apr 2017 #6

Who we are as a nation has been grounded in Racism and White exceptionalism since day one. wcast Apr 2017 #5

Yes, and what you accurately describe, I think people know....but.. JHan Apr 2017 #7

It serves the majority. wcast Apr 2017 #8

I've heard Trumpers say "we want the old days back, just without the racism" forjusticethunders Apr 2017 #9

yeah, delusional nonsense. JHan Apr 2017 #10

Kicking for truth & realism irisblue Apr 2017 #11

it's truth as unsubtle as salt. JHan Apr 2017 #12

I love the VSB! JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #13

and this shit will get called divisive... JHan Apr 2017 #14

White supremacy explains Putin, Trump, their rise to power. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2017 #15

Not on my watch JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #16

They called Sanders "Crunchy Jesus" Number23 Apr 2017 #18

John Stewart, Bernie Sanders and a whole bunch of white people are just busted up that so many Number23 Apr 2017 #17

what's tragic is how tiresome it is having to fight on multiple fronts, here's the thing.. JHan Apr 2017 #19

What an amazing post! Love every word and I'm glad to see that minorities are still giving Sanders Number23 Apr 2017 #38

Number23, I'm so happy to see you again! betsuni Apr 2017 #21

Hey darling! I'm only here for a minute. This place lost its allure for me years ago Number23 Apr 2017 #39

Oh, hey! betsuni Apr 2017 #40

They know JustAnotherGen Apr 2017 #22

I think it's quite plausible that economic concerns and racism are intertwined for white Americans. YoungDemCA Apr 2017 #23

It is the threat of the loss of white privilege, and that's white economic privilege. kwassa Apr 2017 #36

... La Lioness Priyanka Jun 2017 #43

K&R betsuni Apr 2017 #20

For the same reason that white drug addicts need understanding and treatment wildeyed Apr 2017 #24

Yes! This++++++ JHan Apr 2017 #25

It's a false equivalency to say the health crisis was the problem. It was the criminal activity 58Sunliner Apr 2017 #28

Treating a disease as a moral failing and criminal problem leads to predictably bad results. wildeyed Apr 2017 #31

We should legalize drugs and stop the drug war. 58Sunliner Apr 2017 #34

Thank you JHan saidsimplesimon Apr 2017 #26

I never thought it was an accident DonCoquixote Apr 2017 #32

Yes, race was a factor. And let us look at another important factor. 58Sunliner Apr 2017 #27

Agreed. For some males (regardless of color) Trump's machismo was very appealing.. JHan Apr 2017 #30

Yes machismo was appealing. I was not surprised given the rape culture. 58Sunliner Apr 2017 #33

i think sexism played a part. many union guys who supported Kerry, Obama and other male democrats JI7 Apr 2017 #35

Great article, a good read. sheshe2 Apr 2017 #29

thank you heaven05 Apr 2017 #37

Insulting millions of people who ALWAYS vote does not win elections. YoungDemCA Jun 2017 #41

You don't insult your base by diminishing the perniciousness of racism. JHan Jun 2017 #42