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ProfessorGAC

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23. None Of That Addesses The Point
Sat Aug 24, 2024, 10:38 AM
Aug 2024

Look, we agree that too much emphasis is placed on velocity and spin. I don't think Greg Maddux would get a sniff today, because 91 was about his top speed. Guy could throw a golf ball into a soup can and he wouldn't have gotten past college baseball.
That has to have something to do with all this elbow damage, especially given hardly anyone putches 9 innings anymore.
But, moving the mound back had nothing to do with analytics. It was done in the 1890s. Nobody was using advanced metrics then.
It was actually done for the fairness to batters, because guys were hitting 85/86 by then and from the old distance that was like 93 to 95 today. The game became a groundout or bunt single game because nobody could catch up to a pitch that short a distance. The game got boring & people stopped attending.
Interestingly though, I found this about the experiments in the minors with pushing the mound back (which I didn't know was happening).

Studies by the American Sports Medicine Institute demonstrated no meaningful differences in measures of rotational motion or acceleration for pitchers throwing from distances as far as 63 feet, 8 inches. So there is scientific reason to believe this change will not pose a meaningful increase in injury risk to pitchers. That’s why MLB determined the pitching distance adjustment to be a worthwhile experiment.

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Initial thought. NO BOSSHOG Aug 2024 #1
I don't think MLB has been hurt by the DH rule applied to both leagues True Dough Aug 2024 #8
I always thought BOSSHOG Aug 2024 #10
No pitcher is going to match their output True Dough Aug 2024 #14
Terrible idea. Will really hurt the small market teams that struggle to find enough good pitching as it is yourout Aug 2024 #2
I'm sure Tampa in particular True Dough Aug 2024 #3
This! WestMichRad Aug 2024 #16
No. anciano Aug 2024 #4
Noooooooo n/t Drum Aug 2024 #5
Nope! Dave in VA Aug 2024 #6
Sounds like a really bad idea...nt Wounded Bear Aug 2024 #7
I preferred when pitchers tried to have complete games...or just one closer for 1 or 2 innings. Lucky Luciano Aug 2024 #9
Only if they go back to one-platoon football. Silent Type Aug 2024 #11
Here's my idea Cartoonist Aug 2024 #12
The rule is already 5 innings. I don't think that would change much. rsdsharp Aug 2024 #13
They had exceptions to the rule discussed above...like 4 earned runs. Lucky Luciano Aug 2024 #15
Thanks. I should have read it. I still think it's a bad idea. rsdsharp Aug 2024 #17
I put this idea with lowering the mound, increasing the distance from the mound to home plate, banning the shift, etc. retread Aug 2024 #18
Increasing The Distance To Home Plate? ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #20
"Last season, 34.2% of pitchers to appear in an MLB game had Tommy John surgery at some point in their past." retread Aug 2024 #22
None Of That Addesses The Point ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #23
I am already deeper in this than I care to be. However, retread Aug 2024 #31
Bad idea. I don't like the pitch clock, either. Ziggysmom Aug 2024 #19
We Agree & Disagree ProfessorGAC Aug 2024 #21
NO! NO, NO, NO, NO!!!! If MLB does this, I'm gone. Auggie Aug 2024 #24
And if you're gone True Dough Aug 2024 #25
Exactly. Fuck 'em and their lies: Auggie Aug 2024 #28
Kind of off topic, but even baseball allows for carve-outs. Not abortion bans? BComplex Aug 2024 #26
Don't like the sound of it. But maybe they want to eliminate the notion of bullpen days. Bristlecone Aug 2024 #27
Agreed on the pitch clock and the pick-off rule True Dough Aug 2024 #30
Opposed LuvLoogie Aug 2024 #29
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