Religion

trotsky

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37. "faith requires no evidence"

Tue Mar 26, 2019, 07:52 AM

Mar 2019

Which is precisely the #1 problem with religion.

Westboro Baptist needs no evidence to support their belief that gay people are evil and going to hell. They are just as correct and justified in their faith as you are.

That's a fucking problem, gil. Your theology supports bigots and tolerant people equally.

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One's Religion Is a Choice. It Is Not an Innate Characteristic of Anyone. [View all] MineralMan Mar 2019 OP

It is upsetting that we have at least one person in this group... trotsky Mar 2019 #1

Well, while I think that such ideas can be dangerous, MineralMan Mar 2019 #3

I believe such religious extremists literally cannot separate the two. trotsky Mar 2019 #4

"How do we deal with such extremists?" MineralMan Mar 2019 #6

It's a paradox... NeoGreen Mar 2019 #8

At least they aren't burning us in the town square anymore Major Nikon Mar 2019 #7

Only because it is no longer an acceptable course of action. MineralMan Mar 2019 #9

Misframing. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #12

BWAH HA HA HA trotsky Mar 2019 #13

Here's what this straw person said... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #17

This message was self-deleted by its author marylandblue Mar 2019 #22

Arguing free will zipplewrath Mar 2019 #2

I have very little difficulty with accepting free will MineralMan Mar 2019 #5

And as you age zipplewrath Mar 2019 #10

Ah, yet another philosophical quandary. MineralMan Mar 2019 #11

A question: guillaumeb Mar 2019 #14

I'll tell you what, guillaumeb: MineralMan Mar 2019 #15

But, in the absence of any evidence for either position, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #18

If there is no evidence either way, then the intellectually correct position is agnosticism. marylandblue Mar 2019 #20

If faith is absent, then I agree. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #21

non-belief demands evidence for belief, therefore is not an act of faith. marylandblue Mar 2019 #23

Non-belief is also a negation of the premise underlying belief. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #42

Do you know what a null hypothesis is? marylandblue Mar 2019 #43

Apply it to your argument. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #44

"I don't believe your assertion" is not a position, gil. trotsky Mar 2019 #45

It is a position. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #48

No, I cannot accept your false claims. trotsky Mar 2019 #50

"Any atheist who states that there is no evidence for the existence of a god is asserting guillaumeb Mar 2019 #51

Then what you are saying is misstating the atheist's position. trotsky Mar 2019 #53

We disagree. eom guillaumeb Mar 2019 #54

You didn't answer the question. marylandblue Mar 2019 #46

"faith requires no evidence" trotsky Mar 2019 #37

Exactly. Mariana Mar 2019 #71

Atheism requires no position Major Nikon Mar 2019 #24

#20 uses the same term. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #25

You are full of shit as usual Major Nikon Mar 2019 #30

From the excerpt that you included: guillaumeb Mar 2019 #39

Some Christians also take the "position" women should be subservient to men Major Nikon Mar 2019 #47

Do you admit that you were incorrect? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #49

I admitted you are incorrect Major Nikon Mar 2019 #55

You misunderstand the term "gaslighting' as well. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #56

Sure, Gullible. More gaslighting is always the appropriate apology for gaslighting Major Nikon Mar 2019 #57

Gaslighting about what gaslighting means Lordquinton Mar 2019 #60

Obviously you just don't understand how gaslighting about gaslighting works Major Nikon Mar 2019 #61

... Lordquinton Mar 2019 #63

This is normal. Don't worry about it. Major Nikon Mar 2019 #64

Theism takes the position that there is a god Lordquinton Mar 2019 #35

#20 uses the exact the same term. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #40

Biblical literalism is also a Christian position, yes? Major Nikon Mar 2019 #58

If you provide no evidence to support your position Lordquinton Mar 2019 #59

Position, belief and approach are not synonymous, Monsieur B. MineralMan Mar 2019 #62

Claiming positive atheism is the only acceptable position... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #65

Well, if Christians insist that we accept their individual labels, MineralMan Mar 2019 #66

They should Major Nikon Mar 2019 #72

MN claims that marylandblue did not use the word position. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #67

You will have to take that up with him. MineralMan Mar 2019 #70

Sure! Eko Mar 2019 #28

Sort of. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #16

Are humans so patterned and programmed that they are unable to have free will? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #19

Most likely yes. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #26

A very interesting position. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #27

Change the programming obviously. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #36

That sounds unrealistic. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #41

No it wouldn't. Voltaire2 Mar 2019 #73

While I agree with you that one's religion is a choice, PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #29

Fear of the dark is natural Major Nikon Mar 2019 #31

Interesting point. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #32

It's far easier to appeal to emotion than reason Major Nikon Mar 2019 #33

Again, thank you. PoindexterOglethorpe Mar 2019 #34

It is easier not to question what one learns as a child. MineralMan Mar 2019 #38

Not necessarily Cary Mar 2019 #52

In most case, yes, that's true customerserviceguy Mar 2019 #68

I have no experience of living in such a society, so I can't answer. MineralMan Mar 2019 #69

With all due respect, this is just plain silly. old as dirt Dec 2021 #74