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trotsky

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115. I am perfectly content to let readers be the judge.
Wed Mar 27, 2019, 11:50 AM
Mar 2019

As I have told you innumerable times.

Others can decide for themselves what kind of religious person you are - someone who lives their faith honestly and sincerely, or someone who is a vicious hateful hypocrite.

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Hell yeah! notdarkyet Mar 2019 #1
Authoritarians safeinOhio Mar 2019 #2
They should, but won't. Religious beliefs are fragile, MineralMan Mar 2019 #3
Religion should not have the powers of the state exboyfil Mar 2019 #4
Thats how privilege works Major Nikon Mar 2019 #5
Yeah, if Jesus is all powerful, let Jesus punish the blasphemers. 3Hotdogs Mar 2019 #6
People aren't rational, especially when it comes to religion. marylandblue Mar 2019 #7
One can make rational arguemnts for many things, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #11
Which is why rational arguments can be blasphemy. marylandblue Mar 2019 #17
Rationality has nothing to do with deliberate incitment. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #23
Cartoons are deliberate incitement? Since when? marylandblue Mar 2019 #24
The intent waas to incite. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #38
"incite" and "provoke" are loaded words marylandblue Mar 2019 #50
Geller, in my opinion, is a professional Islamophobe. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #52
If you can be incited to violence with a blasphemous cartoon marylandblue Mar 2019 #59
Most people are not incited to violence. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #70
I think you are trying to prevent criticism of religion marylandblue Mar 2019 #74
You have the right to that opinion. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #83
You really do use motte-and-bailey a lot. Also tokenism. And condescension. marylandblue Mar 2019 #88
Impressive was your remote analysis. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #90
More condescension with a side of sarcasm? marylandblue Mar 2019 #92
My essential point is that most people do not resort to violence. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #94
Well at least that's straight forward and not a dodge, but it's still very weak marylandblue Mar 2019 #96
Such leading questions are a part of the problem. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #97
I've been participating in the Religion Group for over a year marylandblue Mar 2019 #100
Do you think Andres Serrano is a professional Christianophobe? trotsky Mar 2019 #68
Serrano's motivation, which he expressed publicly, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #71
But people were offended. trotsky Mar 2019 #72
Another claim. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #82
Nobody ever specifically admitting to be part of a choir, marylandblue Mar 2019 #89
Metaphor. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #91
Perhaps it was a metaphor too. marylandblue Mar 2019 #93
A metaphor for? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #95
Your tendency to hide behind a fog of words even when asked marylandblue Mar 2019 #98
My interactions with some here are influenced by how I have seen them act with other theists here. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #99
I realize a lot happened here before I showed up. marylandblue Mar 2019 #104
If theists want to have a different kind of conversation Mariana Mar 2019 #105
A repeat of the "leave the religion group" meme. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #108
I suggested no such thing, Gil. Mariana Mar 2019 #111
You did say: guillaumeb Mar 2019 #113
That's a statement of fact, Gil. Mariana Mar 2019 #117
Thanks for confirming that you do exactly this: trotsky Mar 2019 #107
Another claim. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #109
A claim supported by this statement of yours: trotsky Mar 2019 #112
Simply untrue. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #114
I am perfectly content to let readers be the judge. trotsky Mar 2019 #115
As am I. eom guillaumeb Mar 2019 #116
You said, and I fucking quote: trotsky Mar 2019 #106
Do you really trust your own lying eyes? Lordquinton Mar 2019 #118
Most of them avoid the other groups under Religion & Spirituality, too. Mariana Mar 2019 #119
You're on to something Lordquinton Mar 2019 #120
Why it's almost as if the goal isn't "respectful discussion"... trotsky Mar 2019 #123
His silence on this point confirms his religious extremism. trotsky Mar 2019 #121
It's very telling Lordquinton Mar 2019 #122
Do you think people should be arrested for drawing a cartoon of Mohammed? trotsky Mar 2019 #25
Do you think people should be arrested for drawing a cartoon of Mohammed? trotsky Mar 2019 #32
And still no answer. MineralMan Mar 2019 #61
He claimed that drawing Mohammed was incitement. Which is a crime. trotsky Mar 2019 #66
Wow! Should I expect a visit from the Police, then, MineralMan Mar 2019 #67
No police. Mariana Mar 2019 #81
Oh, thank goodness! MineralMan Mar 2019 #85
... Mariana Mar 2019 #87
It's another form of faux outrage.... LakeArenal Mar 2019 #8
If one's religion cannot stand up to criticism, what good is it. gtar100 Mar 2019 #9
Should all people learn to accept being trested with contempt? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #10
Poor reframing Lordquinton Mar 2019 #13
Calling an idea stupid isn't the same as calling the person who holds that idea stupid Major Nikon Mar 2019 #16
Blasphemy is about the deity in question Lordquinton Mar 2019 #22
Sure, Gil. Blasphemy is no different than misogyny Major Nikon Mar 2019 #14
What other ideas deserve special protection from criticism, gil? trotsky Mar 2019 #21
... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #30
Some religion somewhere will view virtually anything as blasphemy. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #12
Also one religion's doctrine is another's blasphemy. marylandblue Mar 2019 #15
I still can't get over the uproar when Ratzinger said his was the one true religion. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #18
Liberal Catholics have been wishy-washy on this since Vatican II marylandblue Mar 2019 #19
Put another way, he took his religion seriously so he had to blaspheme somebody else's. Pope George Ringo II Mar 2019 #20
Courtesy zipplewrath Mar 2019 #26
'Courtesy' said the priest as he lit the pyre. (nt) NeoGreen Mar 2019 #27
Is it rude to say that supply-side economics is wrong? n/t trotsky Mar 2019 #28
It is rude zipplewrath Mar 2019 #29
But that's not what is being complained about. trotsky Mar 2019 #31
Blasphemy zipplewrath Mar 2019 #33
Blasphemy doesn't insult a person. trotsky Mar 2019 #34
Actually, some of it does zipplewrath Mar 2019 #35
That is nowhere to be found in the definition. trotsky Mar 2019 #36
Blasphemy can insult a person zipplewrath Mar 2019 #39
That's not blasphemy though. trotsky Mar 2019 #41
Yes it is zipplewrath Mar 2019 #44
Blasphemy is the act of insulting a diety. trotsky Mar 2019 #46
The blasphemy is what is taken as the insult zipplewrath Mar 2019 #49
Provide your definition, or else this exchange is over. trotsky Mar 2019 #53
That was always my point zipplewrath Mar 2019 #55
But "CAUSING" insult is not blasphemy. trotsky Mar 2019 #57
Is it reasonable for you to be insulted by that? Mariana Mar 2019 #54
This is what happens when the discussion isn't intended to provide clarity or dialog. trotsky Mar 2019 #58
Yes zipplewrath Mar 2019 #62
But what if the evidence, such as it is, supports the blasphemer? Mariana Mar 2019 #64
Just because zipplewrath Mar 2019 #65
Now you're conflating the concepts again. trotsky Mar 2019 #69
What does blasphemy have to do with blue light and "alternative medicines"? Mariana Mar 2019 #73
They would take offense. They would feel insulted. Hell, they would BE insulted. Iggo Mar 2019 #76
I don't treat people of faith with contempt. I treat their faith with contempt. (n/t) Iggo Mar 2019 #37
You realize zipplewrath Mar 2019 #40
Then we had better stop criticizing the Westboro Baptist bigots. trotsky Mar 2019 #42
That's sorta the question zipplewrath Mar 2019 #43
But their actions are also their faith put into reality. trotsky Mar 2019 #45
Quite the opposite zipplewrath Mar 2019 #47
Then you don't understand the Westboro Baptist Church. trotsky Mar 2019 #48
I don't accept any "validity" zipplewrath Mar 2019 #51
I'm sorry, I cannot respect the bigotry of the Westboro Baptist Church. trotsky Mar 2019 #56
Why do I need to respect your beliefs? Cuthbert Allgood Mar 2019 #60
Consider it a recommendation, not a requirement marylandblue Mar 2019 #63
Expressing belief is an action Major Nikon Mar 2019 #77
Beliefs may cause actions, but they are still beliefs, not actions. marylandblue Mar 2019 #78
If you keep your belief to yourself you don't risk criticism. Major Nikon Mar 2019 #79
You can use whatever terms you want. marylandblue Mar 2019 #80
... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #84
Umm, isn't that what I said? marylandblue Mar 2019 #86
Even so. Iggo Mar 2019 #75
Blasphemy should be treated like any other case of defamation. The offended deity must file suit, LongtimeAZDem Mar 2019 #101
GD right. democratisphere Mar 2019 #102
That train left the station. onecaliberal Mar 2019 #103
'Yes' - since EVERY religion is a blasphemy in-of-itself... NeoGreen Mar 2019 #110
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