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marylandblue

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24. I can insist that a book said to be inspired by God

Wed Mar 27, 2019, 08:36 PM

Mar 2019

show a higher level of morality than that expected from Bronze Age nomads. Because if it doesn't, I might conclude that it is not actually inspired by God but just a book written by Bronze Age nomads. Now I understand that God apparently doesn't want to interfere and all, but wouldn't that purpose be better accomplished by actually not interfering, instead of dropping hints he was interfering that could only be understood in the 20th century? Because that would mean he actually was interfering, which is the very thing that negates the free will we only get from him not interfering.

Can you help me out of this conundrum?

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Why weren't any biblical writers inspired to support equal rights for women? [View all] trotsky Mar 2019 OP

How about a chapter on "How Not to Abuse Children"... NeoGreen Mar 2019 #1

Arguing that Bronze Age humans should have shared a 21st century viewpoint? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #2

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #6

No, widening the focus. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #11

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #18

Speaking of the tactic, what is it? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #45

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #46

No, you misunderstand. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #47

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #48

Easily refuted. But you are welcome to continue. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #49

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #50

"This definition implicitly requires an intent to divert." trotsky Mar 2019 #54

Read the sentences. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #55

I did. "Intent" does not appear in them. trotsky Mar 2019 #56

Missing the point 101 guillaumeb Mar 2019 #58

"Intent" does not appear. trotsky Mar 2019 #60

Not how I took it hurl Mar 2019 #8

But that argues for divine interference, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #12

Doesn't it diminish human will to inspire men to write a book marylandblue Mar 2019 #21

Well that depends! hurl Mar 2019 #23

You mean like the divine interference that you think is OK when it serves your agenda? trotsky Mar 2019 #35

Orwell called this phenomena 'doublethink' Major Nikon Mar 2019 #40

That really has nothing to do wth this point. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #43

Thank you for confirming your double standard. n/t trotsky Mar 2019 #44

You just don't understand the Bible. Mariana Mar 2019 #14

Uh, were they not humans then, too? MineralMan Mar 2019 #10

Expecting Bronze Age people to have similar social attitudes as 21st century humans sounds unrealist guillaumeb Mar 2019 #13

The nature of Homo sapiens was the same then MineralMan Mar 2019 #15

And the patriarchy in other countries allowed it. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #16

Whataboutthat? MineralMan Mar 2019 #17

Divisions among the patriarchs? eom guillaumeb Mar 2019 #19

I can insist that a book said to be inspired by God marylandblue Mar 2019 #24

Yes, you can insist that, but we both know that in spite of great sounding rhetoric, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #42

Expecting Bronze Age people to respect each other was unrealistic? trotsky Mar 2019 #36

You just don't understand Major Nikon Mar 2019 #20

Thanks. I am so stupid! MineralMan Mar 2019 #22

Worried atheism is becoming more like religion? Lordquinton Mar 2019 #25

Arguing that people who were allegedly inspired by a god should have been more enlightened. trotsky Mar 2019 #33

No edhopper Mar 2019 #37

You mean "Bronze Age humans in regular contact with a timeless omniscient omnibenevolent deity" Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #39

Kinda funny to argue that Jesus (God!) didn't know any better... ExciteBike66 Mar 2019 #52

How did Jesus treat His female disciples? eom guillaumeb Mar 2019 #53

Trick question! He only chose MEN to be disciples! trotsky Mar 2019 #57

Mary and Mary were the most prominent of Jesus' female disciples. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #59

Ah yes, a TV show proves your point. trotsky Mar 2019 #61

A TV show that depicts an unsupported hypothesis about the MineralMan Mar 2019 #62

Clearly, the Inspirer had other priorities. nt. Mariana Mar 2019 #3

Well, I would guess that that's the last thing they wanted FiveGoodMen Mar 2019 #4

Yeah, kinda funny how that works Major Nikon Mar 2019 #5

"none of this really matters because some atheists in Boston were mean to a Trump supporter." trotsky Mar 2019 #34

Man created God to control woman. CrispyQ Mar 2019 #7

I guess God never got over that MineralMan Mar 2019 #9

Maybe some did, but the political leaders that wanted to use religion to control the masses OhioBlue Mar 2019 #26

Because men wrote the Bible. Straight, white men most likely. Liberty Belle Mar 2019 #27

Maybe not all that white - possibly Middle-Eastern and Egyptian authors. I don't see how skin color Doodley Mar 2019 #30

Depending on the version Lordquinton Mar 2019 #31

Jesus took a stab at it by preventing stoning of the woman MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #28

On the other hand, he said he wasn't there to change the Law Mariana Mar 2019 #41

Yes but we knew he was triangulating MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #51

Read somewhere that several of the books rejected for the New Testament cannon Jake Stern Mar 2019 #29

Right. It is not that the books weren't written, it is that they were excluded from the Canon. Midnight Writer Mar 2019 #32

If God did not approve of those things edhopper Mar 2019 #38