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guillaumeb

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59. Mary and Mary were the most prominent of Jesus' female disciples.

Thu Mar 28, 2019, 06:44 PM

Mar 2019

Jesus’ Female Disciples: The New Evidence – a timely new take on the ultimate boys’ club

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2018/apr/08/jesus-female-disciples-the-new-evidence-a-timely-new-take-on-the-ultimate-boys-club

If you accept the patriarchal view that Jesus only had male disciples, you really need to update your reading.

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Why weren't any biblical writers inspired to support equal rights for women? [View all] trotsky Mar 2019 OP

How about a chapter on "How Not to Abuse Children"... NeoGreen Mar 2019 #1

Arguing that Bronze Age humans should have shared a 21st century viewpoint? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #2

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #6

No, widening the focus. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #11

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #18

Speaking of the tactic, what is it? guillaumeb Mar 2019 #45

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #46

No, you misunderstand. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #47

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #48

Easily refuted. But you are welcome to continue. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #49

... Major Nikon Mar 2019 #50

"This definition implicitly requires an intent to divert." trotsky Mar 2019 #54

Read the sentences. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #55

I did. "Intent" does not appear in them. trotsky Mar 2019 #56

Missing the point 101 guillaumeb Mar 2019 #58

"Intent" does not appear. trotsky Mar 2019 #60

Not how I took it hurl Mar 2019 #8

But that argues for divine interference, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #12

Doesn't it diminish human will to inspire men to write a book marylandblue Mar 2019 #21

Well that depends! hurl Mar 2019 #23

You mean like the divine interference that you think is OK when it serves your agenda? trotsky Mar 2019 #35

Orwell called this phenomena 'doublethink' Major Nikon Mar 2019 #40

That really has nothing to do wth this point. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #43

Thank you for confirming your double standard. n/t trotsky Mar 2019 #44

You just don't understand the Bible. Mariana Mar 2019 #14

Uh, were they not humans then, too? MineralMan Mar 2019 #10

Expecting Bronze Age people to have similar social attitudes as 21st century humans sounds unrealist guillaumeb Mar 2019 #13

The nature of Homo sapiens was the same then MineralMan Mar 2019 #15

And the patriarchy in other countries allowed it. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #16

Whataboutthat? MineralMan Mar 2019 #17

Divisions among the patriarchs? eom guillaumeb Mar 2019 #19

I can insist that a book said to be inspired by God marylandblue Mar 2019 #24

Yes, you can insist that, but we both know that in spite of great sounding rhetoric, guillaumeb Mar 2019 #42

Expecting Bronze Age people to respect each other was unrealistic? trotsky Mar 2019 #36

You just don't understand Major Nikon Mar 2019 #20

Thanks. I am so stupid! MineralMan Mar 2019 #22

Worried atheism is becoming more like religion? Lordquinton Mar 2019 #25

Arguing that people who were allegedly inspired by a god should have been more enlightened. trotsky Mar 2019 #33

No edhopper Mar 2019 #37

You mean "Bronze Age humans in regular contact with a timeless omniscient omnibenevolent deity" Act_of_Reparation Mar 2019 #39

Kinda funny to argue that Jesus (God!) didn't know any better... ExciteBike66 Mar 2019 #52

How did Jesus treat His female disciples? eom guillaumeb Mar 2019 #53

Trick question! He only chose MEN to be disciples! trotsky Mar 2019 #57

Mary and Mary were the most prominent of Jesus' female disciples. guillaumeb Mar 2019 #59

Ah yes, a TV show proves your point. trotsky Mar 2019 #61

A TV show that depicts an unsupported hypothesis about the MineralMan Mar 2019 #62

Clearly, the Inspirer had other priorities. nt. Mariana Mar 2019 #3

Well, I would guess that that's the last thing they wanted FiveGoodMen Mar 2019 #4

Yeah, kinda funny how that works Major Nikon Mar 2019 #5

"none of this really matters because some atheists in Boston were mean to a Trump supporter." trotsky Mar 2019 #34

Man created God to control woman. CrispyQ Mar 2019 #7

I guess God never got over that MineralMan Mar 2019 #9

Maybe some did, but the political leaders that wanted to use religion to control the masses OhioBlue Mar 2019 #26

Because men wrote the Bible. Straight, white men most likely. Liberty Belle Mar 2019 #27

Maybe not all that white - possibly Middle-Eastern and Egyptian authors. I don't see how skin color Doodley Mar 2019 #30

Depending on the version Lordquinton Mar 2019 #31

Jesus took a stab at it by preventing stoning of the woman MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #28

On the other hand, he said he wasn't there to change the Law Mariana Mar 2019 #41

Yes but we knew he was triangulating MaryMagdaline Mar 2019 #51

Read somewhere that several of the books rejected for the New Testament cannon Jake Stern Mar 2019 #29

Right. It is not that the books weren't written, it is that they were excluded from the Canon. Midnight Writer Mar 2019 #32

If God did not approve of those things edhopper Mar 2019 #38