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gtar100

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14. In position and role they are very similar, in skill and expertise...that's another point entirely.
Thu Mar 28, 2019, 11:54 PM
Mar 2019

I've met priests who are highly insightful and highly respected by the people they serve. And I've met priests who wouldn't give me the time of day simply for how I looked. Any priest worth their salt takes their job seriously and knows they are accountable for what they do and say (whether you believe in that authority or not is beside the point, if they are sincere then they do believe in the authority over their position). Trouble seems to be that the position is too easily abused. We can't paint an honest picture if we think position equals character. Any position in the hands of a corrupt person can be misused. Some more easily than others, no? A licensing board is a good start at preventing charlatans from taking advantage of people, but it's not fool-proof.

If you think I'm arguing to protect criminals from justice, I'm not. Just that the confessional requires absolute confidentiality to work. If we humans can't handle that without abusing it, then what? The problem lies within us, not the tool.

And no priest is an amateur if you consider years of school and passing rigorous tests a requirement to get out of the "amateur" category. They require years of training as well. By the looks of how much abuse is going on, I'd say the church and seminary are failing. But that is another matter they need to address.

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As I understand it... [View all] uriel1972 Mar 2019 OP
As I understand it, Igel Mar 2019 #1
So you're fine with child rapists going to heaven... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #2
Lawyers are in no sense of the word "secular priests." marylandblue Mar 2019 #13
Another defender of religious privilege over the prevention of child rape. trotsky Mar 2019 #19
The most superficial aspect to confession is what is said. gtar100 Mar 2019 #3
A priest isn't a counselor or lawyer Major Nikon Mar 2019 #4
They are in the same position regardless of fitness for duty. gtar100 Mar 2019 #7
Not even close Major Nikon Mar 2019 #9
In position and role they are very similar, in skill and expertise...that's another point entirely. gtar100 Mar 2019 #14
If the confessional requires... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #18
I don't disagree with that. gtar100 Mar 2019 #23
I don't agree they are similar in either skill or expertise Major Nikon Mar 2019 #22
That is an overriding argument. gtar100 Mar 2019 #24
Avoiding the issue... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #5
Missed my point. You are exactly right. gtar100 Mar 2019 #6
What exactly are we asking for? marylandblue Mar 2019 #10
Those that refuse to take sides... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #12
I don't take the side of those who abused me nor do I sit idle gtar100 Mar 2019 #15
It was this quote... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #16
How many abused children... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #17
"The confessional has to be confidential or it cannot work" trotsky Mar 2019 #20
If the priest is in the same position as any other counselor, then they shouldn't get an exemption marylandblue Mar 2019 #8
That's the premise of most flavors of Christianity. Mariana Mar 2019 #11
"It's really horrifying if you think about it." trotsky Mar 2019 #21
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