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gtar100

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23. I don't disagree with that.
Fri Mar 29, 2019, 04:39 PM
Mar 2019

That is an abuse of the tool. My argument for it is when it's in the right hands, the confessional is a powerful tool for change and motivation. But when it's being abused, the victims have every right to call them out and get them to stop.

So who would get rid of it? Government? The church leaders? The parishioners? It's a traditional practice (most notably in the Roman Catholic Church and many see it as an integral part of their spiritual life. Actually getting rid of it sounds like an impossible task. Despite all the problems with it as mentioned in this thread, many people use it regularly and get a lot out of it. In part it is an educational issue, that its use requires a certain level of maturity particularly on the part of the priests that take confessions. Many are. Maybe, too, the people who use the confessional need to be educated better on what to expect out of it so they can protect themselves if they feel anything inappropriate is going on. This would include children but frankly, why are children involved at all with this, at least to the age of 12, maybe older. If someone can't explain what the confessional is for without resorting to a memorized script, then they have no business using it. Just my opinion and no doubt there will be exceptions.

This is all so idealistic that it's difficult to imagine it actually happening. I know that sounds contradictory to my arguments but I'm again seeing a powerful spiritual practice getting questioned because people are misusing it and causing people a lifetime of guilt and shame. That sucks mostly for the victims but also for those who are responsible with its use.

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As I understand it... [View all] uriel1972 Mar 2019 OP
As I understand it, Igel Mar 2019 #1
So you're fine with child rapists going to heaven... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #2
Lawyers are in no sense of the word "secular priests." marylandblue Mar 2019 #13
Another defender of religious privilege over the prevention of child rape. trotsky Mar 2019 #19
The most superficial aspect to confession is what is said. gtar100 Mar 2019 #3
A priest isn't a counselor or lawyer Major Nikon Mar 2019 #4
They are in the same position regardless of fitness for duty. gtar100 Mar 2019 #7
Not even close Major Nikon Mar 2019 #9
In position and role they are very similar, in skill and expertise...that's another point entirely. gtar100 Mar 2019 #14
If the confessional requires... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #18
I don't disagree with that. gtar100 Mar 2019 #23
I don't agree they are similar in either skill or expertise Major Nikon Mar 2019 #22
That is an overriding argument. gtar100 Mar 2019 #24
Avoiding the issue... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #5
Missed my point. You are exactly right. gtar100 Mar 2019 #6
What exactly are we asking for? marylandblue Mar 2019 #10
Those that refuse to take sides... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #12
I don't take the side of those who abused me nor do I sit idle gtar100 Mar 2019 #15
It was this quote... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #16
How many abused children... uriel1972 Mar 2019 #17
"The confessional has to be confidential or it cannot work" trotsky Mar 2019 #20
If the priest is in the same position as any other counselor, then they shouldn't get an exemption marylandblue Mar 2019 #8
That's the premise of most flavors of Christianity. Mariana Mar 2019 #11
"It's really horrifying if you think about it." trotsky Mar 2019 #21
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