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MineralMan

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10. I don't know. They were certainly redacted, however.

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:11 PM

Apr 2019

But, the culture from which Christianity arose was a patriarchy. The culture that spread Christianity, namely the Romans, was also a patriarchy. Since women as disciples are not mentioned, I would imagine there were none, frankly, given the culture where Jesus was supposed to have lived.

But, I cannot answer your question, because we have the scriptures as they are. I cannot re-edit them, since the original texts are no longer available. They are not my scriptures, in any case. I have no scriptures. I am an atheist.

You cannot answer your own question, either.

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#MeToo, 'Mary Magdalene' focus on women's stories in Bible as Easter nears [View all] guillaumeb Apr 2019 OP

And yet Jesus couldn't be bothered to have a female disciple. trotsky Apr 2019 #1

1/3rd of the way into a 6 minute read: guillaumeb Apr 2019 #2

And yet Jesus couldn't be bothered to have a female disciple. trotsky Apr 2019 #3

And you know this how? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #4

Let me guess, the disciples in the gospels are only metaphorically men Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #5

No such disciple is described in the Gospels. MineralMan Apr 2019 #6

And were the Gospels redacted to support the needs of patriarchy? eom guillaumeb Apr 2019 #8

Do you have any evidence? trotsky Apr 2019 #9

I don't know. They were certainly redacted, however. MineralMan Apr 2019 #10

Are you suggesting the men who wrote the Gospels weren't already a part of patriarchy? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #15

Nope, he's showing us his groundwork for a 100% idealized and fictional Christianity. trotsky Apr 2019 #26

Jesus had dozens to hundreds of female disciples Loki Liesmith Apr 2019 #53

According to the Dead Sea scrolls, Mary Magdalene was an apostle MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #28

Not to mention the position of the RCC for a millennium was Magdalene was a prostitute Major Nikon Apr 2019 #31

Really. They knew how to destroy her influence MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #33

Can you blame them? Major Nikon Apr 2019 #35

#letspretenditaintamisogynisticreligion Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #7

From the Enlightenment to the Dark Ages: guillaumeb Apr 2019 #11

Yes misogynist atheists exist. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #12

Yes, just not one that isn't a silly fallacy Major Nikon Apr 2019 #32

And, once again, your attempt to divert through whataboutism is clear. MineralMan Apr 2019 #13

I thought your thread was about women in the gospel. trotsky Apr 2019 #14

Yes, the "hatred" meme. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #16

You've admitted it yourself. trotsky Apr 2019 #18

Again, the hatred meme. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #20

I believe the term is guillaumebism. trotsky Apr 2019 #21

More judgment. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #29

You want to know what's interesting about that? Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #17

But all of them are still there, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #19

Sure. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #22

So what? I don't follow them. Nobody here follows them. MineralMan Apr 2019 #23

Should we excommunicate them from atheism? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #24

Say, do you know how to contact the Pope of Atheism? MineralMan Apr 2019 #25

I'm right here. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #67

I plead poverty, your Wholiness. MineralMan Apr 2019 #69

All I have is what's in my pockets... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #70

Ha! You cannot be the Pope of Atheism, then, in truth. MineralMan Apr 2019 #71

trotsky's check bounced. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #73

Perhaps you're neglecting your prayers to the lord of nothingness. MineralMan Apr 2019 #74

Goodyear has purchased the rest of my checks. trotsky Apr 2019 #75

LOL! MineralMan Apr 2019 #76

Now, just out of curiosity, how often do you throw money in the collection plate? Lordquinton Apr 2019 #51

They were just following the misogynistic atheist doctrine Major Nikon Apr 2019 #34

It's almost like he thinks atheists exist in a vacuum. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #66

He just wants to create a false equivalence Major Nikon Apr 2019 #79

This right here is textbook whataboutism Lordquinton Apr 2019 #52

It's not fallacious because it's factually correct. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #68

I wish you were joking Lordquinton Apr 2019 #80

Metaphorical Jesus disagrees Major Nikon Apr 2019 #36

Mary Magdalene was extremely courageous MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #27

And she was a role model for all of us, but women in particular. eom guillaumeb Apr 2019 #30

Agree! MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #37

To your earlier point, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #38

Where are the accounts that indicate this? MineralMan Apr 2019 #40

She was at the grave MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #42

There is not even a single contemporaneous account of Jesus, MineralMan Apr 2019 #45

And who knows if these contemporaneous accounts were used by the writers guillaumeb Apr 2019 #54

So where are those precious documents? MineralMan Apr 2019 #57

The ones for which there is no evidence they don't exist? Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #58

The standard of evidence is breathtaking, no? Major Nikon Apr 2019 #63

What were her formal doctrines? Were there many? Bretton Garcia Apr 2019 #39

Gospel of Mary MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #46

I must have missed many details about her, somehow. MineralMan Apr 2019 #41

Gospel of Mary Magdalene from Dead Sea scrolls MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #43

When it comes to Christianity, I read the Bible as it was made official MineralMan Apr 2019 #44

I like all the gospels but my favorite is Matthew MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #47

Modern Christianity is based on a scriptural Canon created by MineralMan Apr 2019 #48

Wrong. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #56

Ok let us all google Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #59

Insolence! Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #78

The Canon is Roman, Guy. MineralMan Apr 2019 #62

I reread your post. You're right. MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #49

If you ignore the Dead Sea Scrolls, guillaumeb Apr 2019 #55

This message was self-deleted by its author Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #60

Virtually all Old Testament texts. MineralMan Apr 2019 #61

Gospel of Mary is a 2nd century text. Voltaire2 Apr 2019 #64

Correct. I confused gospel of Mary with Dead Sea scrolls MaryMagdaline Apr 2019 #65

I look forward to your exciting mansplanation of this assertion. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #72

You'll just have to trust guillaumeb. trotsky Apr 2019 #77

Oh! Oh! Let me! edhopper Apr 2019 #50

For a few, silliness passes for dialogue. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #81