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trotsky

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62. Your whataboutism isn't exposing a thing other than your own dishonesty.

Fri Apr 19, 2019, 01:13 PM

Apr 2019

The "meme" you refer to doesn't exist, except in your own mind. I have seen no one say that only religion is responsible for bad behavior. Literally NO ONE. You expend all this effort trying to take down a straw man. It's pathetic, really. Why do you act this way?

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China is probably not a comfortable place to live [View all] MineralMan Apr 2019 OP

You have to remember... Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #1

That's interesting...and troubling, too. MineralMan Apr 2019 #2

That's why they accuse us of hypocrisy. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #5

Sure. We see that all the time. MineralMan Apr 2019 #6

Well and... trotsky Apr 2019 #7

It does help when they say it so explicitly. Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #8

An interesting attempt at mind reading. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #10

To decry sexual abuse of children by Christian priests and pastors. MineralMan Apr 2019 #11

Rather telling why someone would think an epidemic of child rape needs a "counterpoint" Major Nikon Apr 2019 #29

It's the old, "But Bobby hit me first" ploy. MineralMan Apr 2019 #33

Then the old Soviet Union weaponized it, and it became whataboutism. trotsky Apr 2019 #34

Just one more in a long list of fallacies Major Nikon Apr 2019 #35

See #7 Act_of_Reparation Apr 2019 #31

You've admitted previously that we may impute intent based on patterns marylandblue Apr 2019 #45

So, when atheists here post about predator priests, what is their motivation? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #49

I impute that they want to discuss child abuse in a large, influential religious institution. marylandblue Apr 2019 #68

James Bradley wrote The China Mirage, about US delusions of a Christian China soryang Apr 2019 #3

Thank you for your insights. MineralMan Apr 2019 #4

So all of your posts about theists around the world should be ignored? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #9

Oh? What meme is that? trotsky Apr 2019 #12

It looks as if the RCC's epidemic of child rape has been reduced to a "meme" Major Nikon Apr 2019 #30

Not at all. My privilege gives me a voice I can use MineralMan Apr 2019 #13

You ignored my point. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #16

I ignore nothing. You made no point. MineralMan Apr 2019 #18

Hard to ignore hurt children when it happens in your local church marylandblue Apr 2019 #46

It is very hard to ignore repression and abuse in one's own country. MineralMan Apr 2019 #48

But easier when it happens to others? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #50

You're clearly not reading my posts for understanding. MineralMan Apr 2019 #52

Easy to ignore suffering from a position of privilege, is it not? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #53

.. MineralMan Apr 2019 #55

Always the best response. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #59

Read my entire post for meaning. MineralMan Apr 2019 #61

Reverting to established behavior. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #63

Yes, you are. MineralMan Apr 2019 #66

Possibly atheists in China ... Bretton Garcia Apr 2019 #14

I truly cannot speak about Chinese atheists. MineralMan Apr 2019 #15

Are you equating Islam with terrorism? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #17

No. The Chinese are. MineralMan Apr 2019 #19

Thank you, group spokesperson. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #20

I started this thread. I will address posts in it MineralMan Apr 2019 #22

Rep. Ilhan Omar usefully clarified this issue Bretton Garcia Apr 2019 #25

Onyl a very few of any demographic engages in terrorism. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #26

Making excuses for repression is a slippery slope. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #21

Are sexually abusive priests and pastors repressive? MineralMan Apr 2019 #23

What is the point of your original post? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #24

No, the same argument cannot be made about priestly predation in other countries marylandblue Apr 2019 #36

No, the argument fails. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #37

You are being disingenuous, unless you are calling for a boycott of Chinese products. marylandblue Apr 2019 #38

Is China different? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #39

It is in fact almost immune. We've never had any significant influence marylandblue Apr 2019 #40

Money is power. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #41

You are being disingenuous again. If you cared about children as much as you cared about straw dogs marylandblue Apr 2019 #42

Much judgment in evidence. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #43

I freely admit you have no proof I am judgemental marylandblue Apr 2019 #44

China is different than the Roman Catholic Church, yes. trotsky Apr 2019 #47

So the systematic repression of theists by the Chinese Government is NOT topical? guillaumeb Apr 2019 #51

What meme? State it, please. MineralMan Apr 2019 #54

Your comments about China, and your many suggestions that Chinese repression of theists guillaumeb Apr 2019 #58

Your whataboutism isn't exposing a thing other than your own dishonesty. trotsky Apr 2019 #62

A typical attempt at framing, using much straw. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #64

A non-response. I understand. trotsky Apr 2019 #65

My point was something you clearly missed. MineralMan Apr 2019 #71

There is an alternative explanation. guillaumeb Apr 2019 #72

There is an alternative explanation of faith, too. MineralMan Apr 2019 #73

Making excuses for religion is a slippery slope. Bretton Garcia Apr 2019 #27

Agreed. eom guillaumeb Apr 2019 #28

Good, then stop doing it. n/t trotsky Apr 2019 #32

Let me ask you this AlexSFCA Apr 2019 #56

There is a long way to go before Muslims have any real political power MineralMan Apr 2019 #60

Perhaps history is the best guide to what the West did to China still_one Apr 2019 #57

Ah...yes...the opium trade. MineralMan Apr 2019 #67

I know you are ethical MM, I just though a little historical background my add some perspective still_one Apr 2019 #69

I understand. I do know the history, or at least the outlines of it. MineralMan Apr 2019 #70