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gibraltar72

(7,629 posts)
41. Recovering Evangelical here.
Wed May 1, 2019, 04:11 PM
May 2019

Yep that's their spiel. Some say once forgiven you're in the clear.

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Where did you get that idea? ADX May 2019 #1
I read the Gospels. They seem to state that very thing multiple times. MineralMan May 2019 #3
I say Yes, you are correct. Delmette2.0 May 2019 #8
Well, an awful lot of preachers have said that again and again. MineralMan May 2019 #16
If you want to believe in heaven, you have to believe hell. Delmette2.0 May 2019 #28
Yes customerserviceguy May 2019 #42
To perish is To Die (not everlasting life in hell) njhoneybadger May 2019 #40
it's a bit more complicated than that htuttle May 2019 #2
More complicated, eh? MineralMan May 2019 #6
You need to saved at the foot of the cross Soph0571 May 2019 #4
i have known some who believe it's the spirit of jesus you need to accept in your heart unblock May 2019 #5
Here is what it says in the Gospel of John, Chapter 3: MineralMan May 2019 #7
well if you're into literal interpretation of the bible, then sure. unblock May 2019 #11
Well, supposedly, those are the words of the Gospel, speaking MineralMan May 2019 #13
The vast majority of Christians don't zipplewrath May 2019 #20
This is not about ALL of the Bible. MineralMan May 2019 #23
No, I don't zipplewrath May 2019 #54
Ok so the promise of eternal life and the Voltaire2 May 2019 #60
None of it bears really thinking about. MineralMan May 2019 #63
I'm still curious what they are supposed Voltaire2 May 2019 #69
Nobody has answered that question. MineralMan May 2019 #70
With metaphor all things are possible Major Nikon May 2019 #72
If you're asking could it be metaphorical, sure. unblock May 2019 #73
That's a mnority viewpoint among Christians, though. MineralMan May 2019 #74
Yeah. It's hard to compete with the promise of eternal life unblock May 2019 #75
Plus, Christianity gives people an easy shortcut to that eternal life. MineralMan May 2019 #76
indeed. what are we jews thinking making people study for a year just to convert? unblock May 2019 #78
Fair enough, although it sounds more like atheism than christianity. Voltaire2 May 2019 #79
No it's not unblock May 2019 #80
besides UU which denominations don't believe in a literal eternal afterlife? Voltaire2 May 2019 #81
I'm not talking about official doctrine and dogma, just what people actually believe unblock May 2019 #82
So you agree that essentially all christian sects as a matter of doctrine believe in a literal Voltaire2 May 2019 #83
The doctrine tells a story unblock May 2019 #85
Condemned to what? SoFlaDem May 2019 #22
Well, you could ask why a deity wouldn't be egotistical. I mean, really. MineralMan May 2019 #24
cause egotistical beings suck... SoFlaDem May 2019 #27
Your Mark 16 example was not part of the original Gospel pandr32 May 2019 #31
Religion and scriptures are what they are, or MineralMan May 2019 #49
Your way is The Way, a term many ancient followers applied to their groups. It's good. Karadeniz May 2019 #47
Still swinging away eh don Fullduplexxx May 2019 #9
Who is Don? MineralMan May 2019 #14
Yeah. Who's Don? Iggo May 2019 #89
How are you to respond? IF you accept it, you respond by believing in Jesus or buying an 3Hotdogs May 2019 #10
Asbestos suits are scratchy and uncomfortable. MineralMan May 2019 #15
In that state of being (or non-being), I don't think you need to worry about cancer. 3Hotdogs May 2019 #45
Jesus didn't even believe in Christianity. LakeArenal May 2019 #12
Not exactly zipplewrath May 2019 #17
A lot of that is problematic because Jesus and the Disciples were all Jewish bigbrother05 May 2019 #18
Which Jesus do you believe in? jls4561 May 2019 #19
I don't believe in any Jesus at all. MineralMan May 2019 #25
I have a new question jls4561 May 2019 #21
The Gospels are those four books. MineralMan May 2019 #26
There is some good stuff in the Gospels jls4561 May 2019 #30
you can find jewelry in the sewers... nt uriel1972 May 2019 #50
If you don't believe in any version of Jesus at all, why is this relevant to you? TygrBright May 2019 #29
Why are faith and facts at odds? jls4561 May 2019 #33
They may not be. The point is, faith is belief in something that cannot be proved with facts. n/t TygrBright May 2019 #39
faith and facts Brainstormy May 2019 #77
It's more like faith and reason which are at odds Major Nikon May 2019 #84
That's what I was told... 2naSalit May 2019 #32
Told you would burn? jls4561 May 2019 #34
InHELL 2naSalit May 2019 #35
And do you still believe that? jls4561 May 2019 #36
I don't believe anything 2naSalit May 2019 #37
Jesus died for Nuggets May 2019 #38
You'd think it would work that way, wouldn't you? Mariana May 2019 #48
Recovering Evangelical here. gibraltar72 May 2019 #41
As was indicated on a recent episode of Supernatural LiberalArkie May 2019 #43
In my father's house there are many mansions... jls4561 May 2019 #44
There is an excellent book by Walter Bauer, orthodoxy and heresy in early christianity. Karadeniz May 2019 #46
You are well prepared. I couldn't do what you did rusty quoin May 2019 #51
Like so many I've been all over the map Thekaspervote May 2019 #52
You should just ignore it, because it's a stupid belief. vlyons May 2019 #53
ahem, if others ignored we could too.... nt uriel1972 May 2019 #55
well no vlyons May 2019 #56
buuuuut... uriel1972 May 2019 #57
I can't control what other people do and think. vlyons May 2019 #58
Nor can I. However, I can object to behaviors that MineralMan May 2019 #59
A religion is whatever the adherent says it is. marylandblue May 2019 #61
Actually, they're both wrong. MineralMan May 2019 #62
Because it makes them feel good to have old stories to believe. marylandblue May 2019 #65
Magic is a waste of time and effort. MineralMan May 2019 #67
Lot's of things are a waste of time and effort and make confusion. marylandblue May 2019 #68
Such things are to be avoided, I think. MineralMan May 2019 #71
Whatever gets someone through their day is fine with me, marylandblue May 2019 #86
A very interesting question/topic...I greatly appreciate the opportunity for discussion. Pendrench May 2019 #64
The Rule of Reciprocity is common to almost every culture and religion. MineralMan May 2019 #66
Hi MineralMan - thank you for your response to my post. Pendrench May 2019 #87
Jesus didn't exactly live up to that message himself. Mariana May 2019 #90
Hi Mariana - Thank you for your reply to my post. Pendrench May 2019 #91
Sure. Here are a few of them. Mariana May 2019 #92
Hi Mariana - Thank you very much! Pendrench May 2019 #93
It has been turned into that, yes. gtar100 May 2019 #88
"Turned into that"? Act_of_Reparation May 2019 #94
If you really are interested, here's an article that covers it. gtar100 May 2019 #95
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