Religion

Newest Reality

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22. I think you have it there...

Fri Oct 11, 2019, 02:23 PM

Oct 2019

Excellent. That distinguishes the user from the tools. It is probably the most important aspect of the discussion here, so thank you.

So, the finger points back at us and being human and our stages of development. That may be a more beneficial way to see it because then, it is possible to reflect on our motivations and behavior from a broader perspective and, perhaps, someday, take another step out of our quagmire and ignorance.

I remember the Pogo comic strip and the line that became famous from it: "We have met the enemy and he is us!"

I also hold the notion, which is easily ignored or forgotten for various reasons that, we are ALL in this TOGETHER.

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Technology-oriented religions are coming [View all] guillaumeb Oct 2019 OP

Scientology is already here. Have your thetans evicted with the magic machine! n/t TygrBright Oct 2019 #1

is the magic underwear required? (whoops...wrong fairy tale!) NRaleighLiberal Oct 2019 #2

I had no idea that I was infected (infested?) with thetans. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #3

Why are you making fun of someone's deeply-held religious beliefs? trotsky Oct 2019 #5

No. Hand all of your money over to Scientology and you will be rid of them DBoon Oct 2019 #29

Dictator Xenu will not be amused. n/t Permanut Oct 2019 #56

"Religions can be a wonderful and inclusive tool pushing society forward" trotsky Oct 2019 #4

I understand your need to promote this narrative. eom guillaumeb Oct 2019 #6

You understand nothing of the sort, though you certainly wish that were the case. n/t trotsky Oct 2019 #9

No, I really do. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #10

Uh huh. trotsky Oct 2019 #14

Thank you for admitting that it is the problem, or one of them. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #16

Yes, I fully admit your lack of basic civility is the problem. trotsky Oct 2019 #49

Now, there you go with your misframing again.. Permanut Oct 2019 #57

LOL n/t trotsky Oct 2019 #59

That is not the case. Newest Reality Oct 2019 #7

OK trotsky Oct 2019 #8

Oh come on, now. Newest Reality Oct 2019 #11

Genocide is a pretty broad brush Cartoonist Oct 2019 #12

Okay, Newest Reality Oct 2019 #13

Well said. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #18

Generic Apologetic #151: ZOMG GUISE SCIENCE IS TEH EVUL Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #60

Do the words China and Uighurs apply here? guillaumeb Oct 2019 #21

Only if you're going to engage in Whataboutism. trotsky Oct 2019 #52

That's the thing, if you go broader and deeper, it only gets worse for you. trotsky Oct 2019 #15

Tell that to the theists in CHina who are imprisoned in concentration camps guillaumeb Oct 2019 #17

Yes. Newest Reality Oct 2019 #19

True. People claim many reasons for what they do, guillaumeb Oct 2019 #20

I think you have it there... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #22

Well said. we are all in this together because we are all human, and all fallible. eom guillaumeb Oct 2019 #24

Leave Pogo out of it. Cartoonist Oct 2019 #26

That's a nice statement. Newest Reality Oct 2019 #28

When the claim is that their holy text tells them to kill people... trotsky Oct 2019 #53

Who pushes the button? Cartoonist Oct 2019 #23

I was making the opposite point. Newest Reality Oct 2019 #25

Been there. Cartoonist Oct 2019 #27

Oh boy. Newest Reality Oct 2019 #31

No answer eh? Cartoonist Oct 2019 #32

You know about your own experience with religion. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #34

Unfortunately, no Cartoonist Oct 2019 #35

We must all know our own imperfections. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #36

Yes, there are theists imprisoned in China. There are also atheists imprisoned in China. trotsky Oct 2019 #50

Oh and #whataboutism. trotsky Oct 2019 #51

Are there any atheists in those camps, you think? Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #54

The Uighur camps contain Muslim Uighurs. eom guillaumeb Oct 2019 #55

Are there camps for atheists? Act_of_Reparation Oct 2019 #61

or this DBoon Oct 2019 #30

Brothers and Sisters, the Techno-God said to me today Vogon_Glory Oct 2019 #33

Absolute bull. Eko Oct 2019 #37

Religious hierarchies were formed edhopper Oct 2019 #38

All organizations form hierarchies. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #39

but not all do it to control others edhopper Oct 2019 #40

A hierarchy implies control, and leadership. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #41

But what that leadership and control does is the point edhopper Oct 2019 #42

Many scientists are theists. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #43

not the subject edhopper Oct 2019 #44

You widened the subject by talking of science and medicine. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #45

As examples of hierarchies that are not anti-progress as religion is edhopper Oct 2019 #46

Is religion in itself opposed to progress? guillaumeb Oct 2019 #47

I'll stand by my #30 reply. edhopper Oct 2019 #48

I'm looking forward to the use of technology by religious authorities.. Permanut Oct 2019 #58

Technology cannot exaplin the metaphorical use of language. guillaumeb Oct 2019 #62