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Divad123

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9. epistemology
Fri Apr 17, 2020, 03:39 PM
Apr 2020

OK, I think I see a little of where you're coming from. I can't resist a little sophistry here and point out that if 'there are no facts' that that itself would be a fact.
But seriously, I'm a 'recovering objectivity' and I start with a simple sentence that everything else flows from: "There is a real world, and I know it". Implicit in this statement are,1, an objective reality, 2, concepts that refer to that reality(definitions, words, and theory in the scientific sense),and 3, and my awareness that I'm aware of this. Ayn Rand used these axioms deductively, where as I see that all experience partakes of them and use them as basic building blocks of thinking. When I say that in meditation your awareness has a quality distinct from that of say, when your playing chess, I'm saying, "Hey, something is different about this"--as distinct as cherry red is form pink.
Or, on the other hand, I did do a lot of acid back in thee 80's.....

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a difference [View all] Divad123 Apr 2020 OP
An intertesting post. guillaumeb Apr 2020 #1
Sometimes Divad123 Apr 2020 #3
What you describe as truths are not factual and have more to do with belief Major Nikon Apr 2020 #2
awareness Divad123 Apr 2020 #4
These are still your beliefs and not facts Major Nikon Apr 2020 #5
standard Divad123 Apr 2020 #6
"Quality" is a subjective observation Major Nikon Apr 2020 #7
epistemology Divad123 Apr 2020 #9
If you are talking about a purely neurological state edhopper Apr 2020 #8
Not quite Divad123 Apr 2020 #10
I don't accept the existence edhopper Apr 2020 #11
not saying that Divad123 Apr 2020 #12
Oh edhopper Apr 2020 #13
Yes Divad123 Apr 2020 #14
Zen edhopper Apr 2020 #15
And Divad123 Apr 2020 #16
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