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In reply to the discussion: Christianity...Seems legit [View all]

Bluetus

(753 posts)
115. Doesn't matter to me one way or another
Tue Nov 26, 2024, 12:23 AM
Nov 2024

Last edited Tue Nov 26, 2024, 12:29 PM - Edit history (1)

There are scholars who think Jesus Christ was an amalgam of several different people. After all, "Jesus" never wrote anything as far as we know, and "Christianity" wasn't formalized for another 400 years after his time. That's plenty of time for the texts to have been rewritten and lost in translation many times over. And the same goes for Moses. These are mostly oral traditions that have been heavily edited over the millennia.

My point is mainly that it is silly for Christians to obsess about the 10Cs when their guy made it clear that his values were more potently expressed through the sermons on the mount and on the plain. If it is all conjured fiction, that doesn't really change anything. These are just value statements, take them or leave them. Some are fairly universal. Some are self-serving for the business enterprise of the churches. Some are self-serving for the politicians of the day. And some really aren't as applicable as they once might have been. Be that as it may, I wonder why "Christians" don't want to own their guy's clearest value statements.

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Christianity...Seems legit [View all] edhopper Nov 2024 OP
Aren't most/all of those points also part of the other Abrahamic religions? erronis Nov 2024 #1
MLK is legit, Mother Teresa, Nelson Mandela, etc. David Boyle Nov 2024 #2
You might want to do a little research on "Mother" Teresa . . . SarcasticSatyr Nov 2024 #5
She wasn't perfect David Boyle Nov 2024 #12
She denied morphine and pain killers because suffering was godly and good kiri Nov 2024 #28
I've heard that David Boyle Nov 2024 #30
Theresa was ugly in spirit and soul and loved suffering for others kiri Nov 2024 #51
Widely loved David Boyle Nov 2024 #52
As long as it was other people's suffering. Mariana Nov 2024 #64
I've heard that before David Boyle Nov 2024 #65
She could have provided them with pain relief. Mariana Dec 2024 #134
She maybe could've done a better job David Boyle Dec 2024 #137
Pascal's wager has been logically disproven many times over. UniqueUserName Nov 2024 #7
I disagree, but good questions by you David Boyle Nov 2024 #11
Pascal's wager works in reverse too. Gore1FL Nov 2024 #15
Another scary hypothetical David Boyle Nov 2024 #17
The problem is Pascal's wager SCantiGOP Nov 2024 #55
That may not always be a problem David Boyle Nov 2024 #56
Love edhopper Nov 2024 #79
Rec for thoughtfulness David Boyle Nov 2024 #84
Those people can be edhopper Nov 2024 #99
Possibly so David Boyle Nov 2024 #102
Impossible to prove. edhopper Nov 2024 #103
Different opinions David Boyle Nov 2024 #104
Yeah edhopper Nov 2024 #106
Thx! David Boyle Nov 2024 #107
Oh, and Joe Biden is a regular churchgoer David Boyle Nov 2024 #19
"Joe Biden is a regular churchgoer" and ended the USA with Merrick Garland.... NT kiri Nov 2024 #33
Okay, he isn't perfect David Boyle Nov 2024 #36
I don't understand your reply in context of the meme LearnedHand Nov 2024 #57
They may be smarties David Boyle Nov 2024 #60
Mother Teresa said that the suffering... RT_Fanatic Nov 2024 #58
She improved lots of people's lives David Boyle Nov 2024 #61
I'm not sure you are asking yourself the right question here Major Nikon Nov 2024 #119
Stalin and Mao killed zillions of people David Boyle Nov 2024 #123
Ah yes, the inevitable correlation to evil deeds performed by atheists Major Nikon Dec 2024 #124
Rec for effort David Boyle Dec 2024 #125
I mucked up the italics David Boyle Dec 2024 #126
That's kind of the whole point Major Nikon Dec 2024 #130
No; David Boyle Dec 2024 #133
I'm pretty sure I already covered this Major Nikon Dec 2024 #135
Some people would behave badly without religion David Boyle Dec 2024 #136
My problem is the people who want to force other people's children to read their Bible surfered Nov 2024 #3
Trump is really no Christian, at heart David Boyle Nov 2024 #9
Perfect Mr.Bee Nov 2024 #4
ha David Boyle Nov 2024 #13
Put The Money Down Mr.Bee Nov 2024 #44
Hoax that's lasted 6 millennia. First 4 millennia, the Abrahamic and Moses hoax, 2 millennia, the Jesus/apostle hoax ancianita Nov 2024 #6
Thank you David Boyle Nov 2024 #10
He's not related. I looked that shit up and wouldn't have read it otherwise. ancianita Nov 2024 #14
There's more than one David Limbaugh? David Boyle Nov 2024 #18
Like I said, not related. There are hundreds with our name, too, you know. Not every Limbaugh spreads lies. ancianita Nov 2024 #20
David Limbaugh edhopper Nov 2024 #45
Also, you might want to check out the short but pithy James Finke book, The Bible Uncomplicated. ancianita Nov 2024 #22
As to your first paragraph - cilla4progress Nov 2024 #37
Good point. Sure. A lot of larger "causes" are ones that they are called by other humans to support. ancianita Nov 2024 #41
Same with religions Bluetus Nov 2024 #59
We don't know religion is false David Boyle Nov 2024 #62
Was gonna add a smiley, it somehow didn't work in last post David Boyle Nov 2024 #63
Exactly, it is unknowable, so ... Bluetus Nov 2024 #67
I think it's a good deal David Boyle Nov 2024 #68
I realize some of this may be playful, but Bluetus Nov 2024 #69
Sure, many MAGA are terrible David Boyle Nov 2024 #70
My personal experience is Bluetus Nov 2024 #71
Okay, ath/agn folks sometimes get treated needlessly badly David Boyle Nov 2024 #72
The 10C's are fine, and also ... Bluetus Nov 2024 #73
Discernment is important David Boyle Nov 2024 #74
The 10 Cs are an awful guide edhopper Nov 2024 #80
Adultery, too David Boyle Nov 2024 #92
The problem then is edhopper Nov 2024 #95
Separation of church/state David Boyle Nov 2024 #96
Then why is the 10 C valid. edhopper Nov 2024 #98
Hah David Boyle Nov 2024 #100
They served a purpose almost 4000 years ago Bluetus Nov 2024 #108
There was no Moses edhopper Nov 2024 #109
No Moe? David Boyle Nov 2024 #110
Nope edhopper Nov 2024 #112
Hmmm David Boyle Nov 2024 #113
Doesn't matter to me one way or another Bluetus Nov 2024 #115
Rec for thoughfulness David Boyle Nov 2024 #117
Thoughtful David Boyle Nov 2024 #111
"A Big Person in the Sky, watching" Gore1FL Nov 2024 #81
I've thought of that David Boyle Nov 2024 #85
As a human, I am not good 100% of the time, clearly. Gore1FL Nov 2024 #88
Moral animals sometimes David Boyle Nov 2024 #91
I'm referring to this: Gore1FL Nov 2024 #93
Thx David Boyle Nov 2024 #94
We don't know that leprechauns are false either Major Nikon Nov 2024 #118
Like the Snoopy logo David Boyle Nov 2024 #120
There is no biblical support for the holy trinity doctrine which came along long after the bible found its way to paper Major Nikon Nov 2024 #121
Disagree gently David Boyle Nov 2024 #122
So many claims to the TRUTH, they can't all be right. Therefore, some must be FALSE. kiri Nov 2024 #42
Tell that to Joe Biden. You're misreading, if you've read it at all. ancianita Nov 2024 #43
Seems cruel to leave the raped now non-virgins motherless and fatherless. kiri Nov 2024 #49
The Bible has problematic aspects, from a modern point of view David Boyle Nov 2024 #50
Valid 'covenants' are made between sentient, informed homo sapiens; no talking snakes kiri Nov 2024 #53
HA David Boyle Nov 2024 #54
Why are you spouting edhopper Nov 2024 #83
Not sure it's that David Boyle Nov 2024 #89
To claim all modern laws and systems edhopper Nov 2024 #97
Oh, okay, I see David Boyle Nov 2024 #101
Our country was an offspring of the enlightenment edhopper Nov 2024 #105
I have no idea edhopper Nov 2024 #46
Quantum Mechanics, Icanthinkformyself Nov 2024 #8
God created everything we study, from the macro of trillions of universes to the micro of quantum energy. ancianita Nov 2024 #21
Fabulous! David Boyle Nov 2024 #24
Old AND new cilla4progress Nov 2024 #39
Gosh, a lot more logical and believable than that sciency stuff! byronius Nov 2024 #16
... ancianita Nov 2024 #23
I don't understand David Boyle Nov 2024 #25
whoops, it was post 23 with dots afterwards David Boyle Nov 2024 #26
They're known as ellipses that are supposed to take the place of words in a post header. ancianita Nov 2024 #27
Ha David Boyle Nov 2024 #29
I was linking to byronius something I thought he might consider, and didn't really need a header. ancianita Nov 2024 #32
This is getting hilarious David Boyle Nov 2024 #35
Hey, don't blame God for ancianita Nov 2024 #38
I need more sleep David Boyle Nov 2024 #31
lol I hear you. Been there, too. ancianita Nov 2024 #34
edhopper CentralBlueTexan Nov 2024 #40
And when it did, Humanity had no idea about vastness of the universe NowsTheTime Nov 2024 #47
This does happen at times David Boyle Nov 2024 #48
B Obama singing "Amazing Grace" in church David Boyle Nov 2024 #66
Chart DCE Nov 2024 #75
what chart? edhopper Nov 2024 #77
This one? JoseBalow Nov 2024 #114
The graph is insulting to religious people, but David Boyle Nov 2024 #116
G-d is NATURE. elleng Nov 2024 #76
There are two meanings to that edhopper Nov 2024 #78
"Pantheism" David Boyle Nov 2024 #82
Diety or not elleng Nov 2024 #86
You're a "goddess" of photography! David Boyle Nov 2024 #87
LUCKY to find great place to live, elleng Nov 2024 #90
This message was self-deleted by its author Traildogbob Dec 2024 #127
🌊 underpants Dec 2024 #128
!!! David Boyle Dec 2024 #131
I still consider religions to be the destroyers of humanity. They are the primary reason we are not better than this. walkingman Dec 2024 #129
Generalization David Boyle Dec 2024 #132
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