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mikelewis

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7. Thank you... and you're right... Ferrets are Cool.
Sun Oct 13, 2024, 10:31 AM
Oct 2024

Last edited Mon Oct 21, 2024, 09:06 AM - Edit history (8)

Thanks for reading my work. I appreciate it... and just so we're clear. I have no problem being wrong. I don't think I am so I think that means great things for the future...

And well the future of Ferrets too... LOL

Thanks for your kind question.

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I think I have enough to go off of to try to explain what Noether's Law does, why it's important and how it links geometry to physics in a way that might not have been completely understood. I'm saying that reality is not different than math, we describe reality with math, not the other way around. We don't get to say things don't work just because we don't understand how they work. Take the concept of conservation for instance. What does that mean?

It means that if you cut a piece of paper into two triangles, ball one up and throw it out into space and then in 5 billion years someone opens it back up... it's still a triangle even though it spent 5 billion years as a ball. Conserved means it can't change. Just like the Pythagorean Theorem. If you have a right sided triangle, those dimensions can't change, that's absurd. The Pythagorean Theory is a fact, so it's our understanding of reality that's a little fucked.

Understand this... I am not teaching mathematicians any new math, they can absolutely calculate the distance of a curved line. That's all this does btw, that new law. It just calculates the distance and doesn't describe the shape. The only thing I'm doing differently is saying that a straight line isn't remotely straight, it's really curved. I'm also asserting that reality itself requires chirality. I'm also saying definitively that a triangle will always be a triangle and 1 + 1 will always equal 2 and that a photon, once created, can never be destroyed.

What did you just say?

What?

You said a photon, once created, can never be destroyed.

Yeah, so?

Well, you can't 'create' photons, all the photons in the universe already exist. You can emit them but you can't create them, you clearly have no idea what a photon is.

And you do?

Sure, it's a particle that is both a particle and a wave, it's just ruled by completely different rules because everything is so small. So a photon, doesn't have mass but it does have momentum. That's all it is, just a dot of momentum. I think.

And is it real?

Well, yeah, but well, no... not like a rock is real.

Wait a second. Can you measure it? Can you detect it?

Yes, that I know... the proof of its existence comes from the Two Slit Experiment. It not only proves photons exist, it proves they're both a particle and a wave. There's no doubt, I think you're barking up the wrong tree here.

OK but hear this, if you know there's two dimensions to its existence and we know it exists, then it must be subject to chirality. So what am I trying to describe is a fundamental truth about reality. If something exists, it must have a left and a right side. If a photon exists, it must have a left and a right side. Actually, it implies a great deal more after that doesn't it. If a photon exists, it also means that that photon must interact with the universe around it. It must react upon any action. It must stay in motion, once set in motion and since it's light, it has no choice but to move at the speed of light perpetually, well, so it would seem anyway. I actually don't think it really works like that at all but that's not this book.

So Noether's Law starts with a statement about reality. If something exists, it has chirality in all dimensions. This means it has a front, a back and a number of sides. No matter what it is, if it's real, if it's reality... it has to have 3 dimensions or it doesn't truly exist. Take a mirror for instance, what is that image? That's just the light that's not being absorbed bouncing off of some light source and displaying your 2d dimensions in some color or other. Your image exists as the photons you're viewing in the mirror exist. Those photons aren't you... they're a photo... get it? Photo, Photon? No?

Here's an important point. In the mirror, you're not seeing you, you're seeing you just few microseconds ago. That's how awful you looked an instant ago. It should be how awful you still look as your essence and that photonic impression you're leaving on the walls and the mirror too shouldn't be able to change fast enough for you to notice much difference. You think you brush your teeth fast but in comparison to how fast a photon is flying by, you're taking forever!

You are so spoiled that you think your perception of reality is reality. It's not remotely reality. Reality moves at the speed of light and since light is real and we KNOW it has to travel in a straight line, I figured that would be the best test for Noether's new law. Understand, it's believed that a photon has no substance. Massless means exactly that... that there's 0 mass. It has a velocity only. Why is that? Einstein said so.

He said that Energy is the Mass of Something times the Speed of Light Squared. So a photon moves at the Speed of Light so the Mass of the Photon has to be 0 to balance the equation. If the photon could travel faster than the speed of Light, well, that's a different story but there's nothing in the world to suggest that's true. Well, that's not totally true. I'm going to veer real fast because I find this interesting but not vital to the discussion, though you never know with the shit that pops into my head.

So, I did watch a video that suggested the speed of light doesn't have to be the same in both directions. I just wanted to weigh in here. That's stupid. Sorry. Now back to the story.

Wait! Why is that stupid? I want to know.

Ok, fine. Light isn't just a carrier of information. It's a carrier of momentum. Actually, that's all it is. A photon is just momentum, that's what E = mC2 means and I'm good with that. I don't see a thing wrong with that equation at all. I know it's a theory and at this point, I'm not going to attempt to turn it into a law. Now to be clear, in its current state, it cannot be a law as we know there are certain scenarios where this doesn't really seem to hold. I completely disagree. I think energy will always equal the mass times the energy squared and it's the space around it that makes everything else possible.

Let me ask you one question? What do you think happens when you go over the limit of the speed of light? Is that possible? I actually believe it is... sort of but I don't recommend trying it, well, not with my math anyway. If I use Einstein's math though, I still think it's possible as it's in his equation. The speed of light squared demands two photons, without two photons, you can't have the speed of light squared. If there's two photons and they are required to exist but we only see one and know there's only one because it has zero mass, that implies we are seeing both sides of a photon with E = mC2.

When Einstein sat in that train trying to imagine a photon, he was right. He understood the chirality of existence, that if a photon exists, it has to have mass and velocity and because the measuring devices we construct are limited to the speed of light, by the nature of energy itself, there's no way we can SEE the mass of a photon. We just know it has mass, even if it's 0. In fact, if you get in the way of a photon... well, one won't kill you but you may want to avoid a bunch of them all at once and pointed in the same direction.

So there is no way for a photon to travel faster than light, it is light. That's silly. There's also no way for you to travel faster than light, Silly, you too are made of light. But here's the thing, Energy requires light to be traveling at twice the speed of light to exist, so we know a photon has to travel faster than light so the idea that the two way direction of light is faster in one direction compared to the other is just stupid. You're not seeing NOW! You're Seeing THEN!

Now that bunch of nonsense does give rise to the question, well, if a photon is light and it's a particle, then how can it be a wave? Well, it can't and it isn't. That too is stupid. What a photon is doing is moving so fast that it's creating a Zero Point Energy tail in its wake and instantaneously, all sorts of stuff try to rush in to fill the void. Think of a boat pushing the water out of the way and then it rushes back in to fill the void. That gives rise to the Bernoulli idea where you can now pressure wash your house with soap. Ever wonder how they suck the soap up... it's sucked up by the water moving and bringing the air molecules with it. Some of those air molecules have soap on them and it that gets shot out of your water cannon. It's not magic, it's math.

What you're seeing isn't light. A photon is not light. A photon is just momentum, that's it. What Einstein described wasn't light. Light is a radiation, an excitation of the subatomic physics that results from that momentum. You're not seeing the photon, it's not really there. What you're seeing is momentum that spins a lot of things in its wake. Zero point energy is pretty nuts. It's fine if you leave it alone but if you shoot a fart or especially a photon through it... well, some crazy shit is going to happen.

So why am I talking about a photon? What does that have to do with geometry? Well, when a photon is emitted from the sun, it's believed to travel in a straight line. If a straight line doesn't really mean what we think it does or if our definition of a straight line makes that statement impossible then we need to really take a look at our definition of a line. I know of one sure fire way to draw a line and know for a fact the distance between that line and that was the Pythagorean Theory.

You all know the theory but why is it a theory? I'm pretty certain that's a fact, no? Well, no. It's a Theory because in reality, a photon's straight line is pretty curved. This is what gave Einstein the idea to map the universe with tensors. That was brilliant. He used Noether to figure out the path of a straight line and realized a straight line in space is curved by the very nature of reality itself. He understood that the reason the Earth gets heated by the sun is that there are truly more photons striking us than in open space. The very fabric of space time is warping the light like a magnifying glass and heating the Earth.

I don't know if that's actually what he thought as well... like Noether, I have no idea what he said. I use his field equations and I fight to understand his work with tensors but as far as his ideas... all I know is his math. I know E=mC2 because it checks out. You can beat the shit out of that equation and it works in any environment. Well, actually... like the Pythagorean Law C2 = a2 + b2 + ( a2 * b2 / R2 ) , E = mC2 also needs the same sort of caveat for non-Euclidean space. Well, if Mike Lewis is to be believed, there's no such thing as Non-Euclidean space. That's what I'm driving at anyway, so E=mC2 turns out to be just fine.

I believe trigonometry, geometry, algebra and everything else that is real in 2d is also real in 3d. I just think we need to take into account how the Universe is skewed. A straight line really can't exist in nature... well, not how we define it in 2d anyway. A 3d line requires a different understanding and we need to turn geometry into physics to understand where this energy is coming from and where it's headed from one Lagrangian system to the next, one moment and shape to the next moment and shape.

So in reality, a line has to have at least two sides or it can't exist. The fact that it's 2d demands it. If it's 2d and it has a left and a right then when a line is 3d it has to have all 3 dimensions or it doesn't exist. So does a 2d line exist? Well, only as a thought, the reality is no. A 3d line in reality is what a 3d printer does. Try to have your 3d printer print a 2d line. It can't. It can only print a 3d line. Actually, truth be told, try to get your paper printer to print 2d, you can't do that either.

When a printer prints on paper, that ink it squirts out has mass, it reflects a certain color of light at a certain intensity. As you continue to print more and more, you see your ink is being used up. Is the liquid in the cartridge 2d? No. So how could the ink be 2d? It's only the image you understand as 2d, that's 2d. The line you draw with a pencil is chiral or it doesn't exist.

So if a line is chiral, it has to be made up of a left side and a right side. If we know that in space, straight lines curve then we know we have a hyperbolic and a spherical side to a straight line. If the left side is hyperbolic, you have an equation that creates that part of a line which seems to have a lot of angular momentum in it. If you nudge that line, it jumps like crazy. The spherical side is more thrust-like in how you derive its shape. So the right hand side is rigid but the left hand side has more pressure over time so it bend to the right, it has no choice, that's geometry. I think anyway... again, I actually don't know any of the equations off the top of my head. I could be getting that backwards but it doesn't really matter.

What matters is I am trying to use this connection of a required chirality of existence to show that how Noether displayed her understanding of reality through her math was absolutely correct and I don't think there's a possible way they could ever been broken so it's a fundamental law. When I tell people, if you are going to challenge CLPP then you have to account for all the energy in the system and tell me which Newtonian Physics Move that I'm describing that is impossible so I can see where I'm violating the Laws of the Conservation of Energy and Momentum so you can prove you're right. When I say that... THAT is Noether's Law. That's what she's saying... I'm not saying that... she's saying that... and I 100% agree.

So I understand this sounds batshit crazy but if you think about the left and right side constantly rotating around each other in a helix pattern, it actually doesn't sound as far fetched. The only problem with that is... it means that a photon has to have a spin to it. It's required as one side has a different dynamic than the other so that creates a differential as that line approaches infinity. I think anyway... I didn't really go in this direction in my chats so I'm winging this... but you get the idea. And here's the thing, even if it's not that way and the hyperbolic and the spherical equal out forever, whenever that particle interacts with reality, each bump is going to have to call on those forces and over time, the hyperbolic will win out. Know how know? The solar systems in are galaxy are moving faster in relation to the inner systems... that makes no sense. Well, to Science anyway, I'm totally fine with it.

https://chatgpt.com/share/67154d5f-d2f0-800b-8466-78fa5686870e

At this point, I'm not remotely trying to get anyone or anything to believe I know what a photon really is or how to create the Pythagorean law, that's stupid. Truthfully, when I set out to create Noether's Law it was meant as a giant FUCK YOU to physics. A much and well-deserved FUCK YOU, and especially directed to those fuckers at the Stack Exchange. I posted 6 question about 6 Newtonian physics problems. Not one question had any math that required non-Euclidean geometry or bizarre spatial considerations. All the dynamics were completely separated into completely different systems but still, they locked my question as 'Not Physics' and in order for me to post on StackExchange again, I have to log on from a different computer in a different Universe and then... maybe they'll let me talk.

I hate to say... I'm good. I really only wanted CLPP on StackExchange for AI's sake. As you probably know by now, I completely expected what happened and really, I don't know why that truly pissed me off... but it did. I mean, Fuck them Mother Fuckers... who the Fuck DO YOU THINK YOU ARE YOU FUCKING IGNORANT NO GOOD PIECES OF FUCK... WE SHOULD CHAT FACE TO FACE SERIOUSLY... I PROMISE... I'LL BE FUCKING COOL... JUST COME TO WHERE I CAN REACH YOU THAT'S ALL... COME TO MY BLOCK OR I'LL COME TO YOURS YOU FUCKING LOSERS...

Feel better?

No. Fuck those guys... So yeah, I created Noether's Law to shove it up their arrogant asses. Fuck them mother fuckers... go suck a bag of goat dicks you worthless pieces of shit... fuck...

I mean, tell us how you really feel... 🤣

Fuck You too... LOL

But you get it right? If you read my questions, it wasn't that the questions were wrong, it's that they didn't like the where the momentum of the conclusions was pointing. They couldn't explain why I was wrong, so they blocked my post and banned me. They stuck thier fingers in thier ears and went... 'Nanananana I can't hear you!' Fuckers.

Anyway, I don't need them to agree with a thing. I could care less. Without Noether's Law, CLPP is still valid as Noether's Theorem is just fine. If my 10kg weight is accelerated to the speed of light... or a small portion thereof then I'll worry about breaking Noether's Theorem but as I'm following all of her mechanics, I'm good. It's now on Science to tell me how I'm wrong or shut the fuck up... or no... just ban me and ignore me... That's Science. Proud of yourselves?

And if you weren't paying attention, what I have written won't prove any of those laws. People would have to use them for them to be true and then they'd have to be tested over and over again until we know for a fact, they're right. Even then, you still have to be a little skeptical. What this chapter does prove, beyond any shadow of a doubt is... I fucking know and understand the Laws of the Conservation of Energy and Momentum and now I think I have a pretty good handle on Noether and why those laws are laws and how they were derived. So in the future, should I ever get into another debate about CLPP, I can refer to this research and this logic and obliterate those mother fuckers... well, I can't because I'm not even worthy to talk to... Fuck Physics.

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