2016 Postmortem

realmirage

(2,117 posts) Sun Nov 27, 2016, 08:04 PM Nov 2016

This is what the Dems need to be doing - Sanders: use defense contracts as leverage for Carrier jobs [View all]

You see, we can fight for social justice AND fight for the blue collar working class.. If we had done that, a recount wouldn't be necessary

U.S. Senator Bernie Sanders turned up the pressure on President-elect Donald Trump on Saturday about his pledge to try to stop an Indiana air conditioner manufacturer from moving 1,400 jobs to Mexico.

Both Sanders, who challenged Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination, and Trump seized on an announcement earlier this year by United Technologies Corp's Carrier division that it would shift production to Mexico as an example of how trade deals hurt U.S. workers.

Sanders on Saturday warned "it is not good enough to save some of these jobs" and said Trump should use as leverage United Technologies' defense contracts, Export-Import Bank financing, and tax breaks.

"I call on Mr. Trump to make it clear to the CEO of United Technologies that if his firm wants to receive another defense contract from the taxpayers of this country, it must not move these plants to Mexico," the senator from Vermont said in a statement.

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-sanders-idUSKBN13L0YU

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This is what the Dems need to be doing - Sanders: use defense contracts as leverage for Carrier jobs [View all] realmirage Nov 2016 OP

Bernie is giving me a headache with this. ( I expect to get raked over the coals for saying this but JHan Nov 2016 #1

Not going to happen GP6971 Nov 2016 #2

Your knee jerk reaction against any plan that could put Sanders strategy into action realmirage Nov 2016 #5

By no means knee jerk GP6971 Nov 2016 #7

Are there no ways at all? THINK realmirage Nov 2016 #8

Of course there are ways GP6971 Nov 2016 #15

The OP was about Sanders pushing Trump to realmirage Nov 2016 #16

So Bernie is trolling? JHan Nov 2016 #17

I understood the purpose of the OP GP6971 Nov 2016 #25

Speaking of F-35 tammywammy Nov 2016 #28

That's true GP6971 Nov 2016 #29

The 2 responses in this thread are good examples of what's wrong with the mindset realmirage Nov 2016 #3

you could have engaged me under my post... it's still there.. JHan Nov 2016 #18

I'm missing the part about social justice? I'm pretty sure this would require new legislation not bettyellen Nov 2016 #4

The social justice aspect was the DNCs entire message, what's lacking realmirage Nov 2016 #6

"Entire message" -I hope you're not serious? bettyellen Nov 2016 #9

It was the majority of it. realmirage Nov 2016 #10

"A tad".... as well as programs to bring new jobs for clean energy and infracstructure.... bettyellen Nov 2016 #23

Bernie's solutions would not have solved the problem you cite, which are problems.. but JHan Nov 2016 #31

The hatred of Bernie here means your important OP is DOA Arazi Nov 2016 #11

I'm trying to help people want to figure out how to win elections realmirage Nov 2016 #12

It's becoming more evident that party purity is more important Arazi Nov 2016 #13

I regularly get challenged for my take on Bernie's positions.. JHan Nov 2016 #21

here we go again DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #14

If you don't lie to people you don't win.. If you don't offer false promises.. you don't win.. JHan Nov 2016 #19

apparently DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #20

Wrong. This is a form of corruption and protectionism. DanTex Nov 2016 #22

People will lap it up though... JHan Nov 2016 #24

Yeah it's an empty gesture- - PR stunt giving voters false hope . bettyellen Nov 2016 #26

And do we know if there are other marybourg Nov 2016 #27

United Technologies is the only US-based maker of elevators and escalators jmowreader Nov 2016 #30

This just sounds scary, murky, and possibly illegal. SaschaHM Nov 2016 #32