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2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Oh, holy shit: 2.25M votes, now! [View all]ProfessorPlum
(11,395 posts)43. are you talking about federalism? Because "states" have nothing to do with the word republic
I point you to
re·pub·lic
rəˈpəblik/
noun
a state in which supreme power is held by the people and their elected representatives, and which has an elected or nominated president rather than a monarch.
archaic
and also
https://www.1215.org/lawnotes/lawnotes/repvsdem.htm
which points out that
A republic and a democracy are identical in every aspect except one. In a republic the sovereignty is in each individual person. In a democracy the sovereignty is in the group.
Republic. That form of government in which the powers of sovereignty are vested in the people and are exercised by the people, either directly, or through representatives chosen by the people, to whome those powers are specially delegated. [NOTE: The word "people" may be either plural or singular. In a republic the group only has advisory powers; the sovereign individual is free to reject the majority group-think. USA/exception: if 100% of a jury convicts, then the individual loses sovereignty and is subject to group-think as in a democracy.]
Democracy. That form of government in which the sovereign power resides in and is exercised by the whole body of free citizens directly or indirectly through a system of representation, as distinguished from a monarchy, aristocracy, or oligarchy. [NOTE: In a pure democracy, 51% beats 49%. In other words, the minority has no rights. The minority only has those privileges granted by the dictatorship of the majority.]
so, the difference is really about power being vested in individual people, or "the people" as a whole, not whether states have power and how much power they have. Each state in our system is also a republic.
As to your claim about the EC and cities getting all the attention, I point you to this excellent video:
Please watch that, and then join me in working to abolish the Electoral College. It is an anti-democratic stain on our country.
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Humans were gifted with free will. Humans choose to create the EC, and to decide who to vore for
lunamagica
Nov 2016
#4
A real tragedy, such an enourmous injustice happening openly in front of the world
lunamagica
Nov 2016
#3
are you talking about federalism? Because "states" have nothing to do with the word republic
ProfessorPlum
Nov 2016
#43
A Republic is a representative democracy. James Madison, father of the Constitution,
Eric J in MN
Nov 2016
#10
It is Horrible NOW. Thr candidates campaigh in a few states and the rest get
lunamagica
Nov 2016
#21
read the federalist 10. the reason for the ec was laid out right there--so that the
niyad
Nov 2016
#46
It's not over yet. The Electoral College must take a founder's writing to heart.
ancianita
Nov 2016
#20
Any ideas on when the vote count will be finished? Likely before December 19th?
Farmgirl1961
Nov 2016
#30