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mythology

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4. I think if Republicans are actually stupid enough to kill the ACA without having a real plan
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 12:32 AM
Nov 2016

would do some serious harm. If all of a sudden 20 million people find themselves without insurance, or Republicans cause premiums to skyrocket due to trying to keep the parts of the ACA people like, while doing away with parts people think they don't like.

Also I think if there is a terrorist attack and Trump does something stupid (either stumble into a major war or tweet about how tough he is while doing nothing).

I think it would really help if Democrats could develop some sort of simple easy to get concept for what our vision for the future is. Clinton had it's the economy stupid, Bush had compassionate conservatism, Obama had yes we can and we are the ones we've been waiting for, Trump had make America great again. I think in the social media age, we need something that fits in a tweet, on a bumper sticker, that's sticky in people's heads. As Bush and Trump proved, it doesn't matter if your concept is idiotic and you have no intention of living up to it.

I think we as a party need to be better focused on how we want to move the U.S. forward. We have some amazing challenges, not just health care, but climate change, population growth, shifting to renewable energy and how that impacts our infrastructure (what happens when we don't need coal, oil or gas stations for example), the radical change automation is having on our labor market, globalization, etc.

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Wait until they lose their health insurance, the wall is not built and the jobs don't return. LonePirate Nov 2016 #1
I can't wait that long. without medicare and SS I'm in big doo doo... pangaia Nov 2016 #17
Yeap, the UE rate in WI is 4.4, in PA its 4.8 and is 5.6 in MI...I don't see DPutin making those ... uponit7771 Nov 2016 #22
The unemployment rate doesn't count people who gave up trying to find work jfern Nov 2016 #26
The LFPR is up and the U6 rate is down in those areas too, I don't peddle RWTP's, they're usually uponit7771 Nov 2016 #27
Median incomes are still 1400 less than in 1999. jfern Nov 2016 #29
... which is excellent after a GOP great depression. There's very few bad caveats to the economic .. uponit7771 Nov 2016 #30
But they'll have wonderful Health Savings Accounts to use! Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2016 #43
I really don't care about Trump voters. It's the idiots who didn't vote LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #2
Yep. After Johnson voters find out AG Sessions will be enforcing federal marijuana laws they'll will RAFisher Nov 2016 #6
As a party, we need to be actively involved in persuading nonvoters to start voting. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #11
Use it or lose it. That is the extent of my persuasive speech. LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #13
Maybe this will bring the glorious progressive revolution Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2016 #37
Stop delivering beer outside the city limits and tell them rwheeler31 Nov 2016 #3
I think if Republicans are actually stupid enough to kill the ACA without having a real plan mythology Nov 2016 #4
They'll kill the ACA and blame Obama. And they'll get away with it. LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #14
That's my take also. pangaia Nov 2016 #18
It will depend on their reasons for their votes. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2016 #5
Yes on all counts. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #7
When they start losing their health care, they will wake up. Trump made a lot of bold promises akbacchus_BC Nov 2016 #8
No they won't wake up. They will keep blaming LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #12
Do not underestimate ignorance. He promised them a bread basket and sooner than akbacchus_BC Nov 2016 #15
4 YEARS !!! pangaia Nov 2016 #20
You are right. pangaia Nov 2016 #19
in too many districts there is NO dem on the ballot at any level. lost dems might come back msongs Nov 2016 #9
That is an excellent point. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #10
That is what the repubs started doing at least as long agho as 1980.. in the '70s really.. pangaia Nov 2016 #21
I've felt, for the longest time, that establishment core of this party fears grassroots involvement. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #24
That is just not the case. boston bean Nov 2016 #33
My experience, watching Democratic politics since the early 1970's Ken Burch Nov 2016 #38
THIS !!!! Deans 50 state all counties should be dem mantra RIGHT HOT DAMN NOW... don't uponit7771 Nov 2016 #23
Well, there are also a kazillion districts where there is no Republican on the ballot at any level frazzled Nov 2016 #39
Guns. Rural voters care about their right to buy any kind of weapon. 33taw Nov 2016 #16
Do those people Doreen Nov 2016 #25
Yes, they think the republicans will let them keep their guns. 33taw Nov 2016 #28
I do not know Doreen Nov 2016 #41
I think a lot of them don't really understand what the GOP stands for, what it has in store for 'em Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #31
I suspect watching their loved ones sicken and die will have an effect Vogon_Glory Nov 2016 #32
You all have too much faith in people Txbluedog Nov 2016 #34
Loss of health insurance, benefits, jobs, etc. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #35
Some people vote based on their personal feelings about the world rather than how they're affected gollygee Nov 2016 #36
I respect what you're asking, however, I don't believe we should be converting Trump voters. Hugin Nov 2016 #40
I'm not talking about trying to convert Trump voters. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #42
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