2016 Postmortem

boston bean

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33. That is just not the case.

Reply to Ken Burch (Reply #24)

Wed Nov 30, 2016, 07:15 AM

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So-what does anyone here think it would take those who voted Trump this time... [View all] Ken Burch Nov 2016 OP

Wait until they lose their health insurance, the wall is not built and the jobs don't return. LonePirate Nov 2016 #1

I can't wait that long. without medicare and SS I'm in big doo doo... pangaia Nov 2016 #17

Yeap, the UE rate in WI is 4.4, in PA its 4.8 and is 5.6 in MI...I don't see DPutin making those ... uponit7771 Nov 2016 #22

The unemployment rate doesn't count people who gave up trying to find work jfern Nov 2016 #26

The LFPR is up and the U6 rate is down in those areas too, I don't peddle RWTP's, they're usually uponit7771 Nov 2016 #27

Median incomes are still 1400 less than in 1999. jfern Nov 2016 #29

... which is excellent after a GOP great depression. There's very few bad caveats to the economic .. uponit7771 Nov 2016 #30

But they'll have wonderful Health Savings Accounts to use! Tommy_Carcetti Nov 2016 #43

I really don't care about Trump voters. It's the idiots who didn't vote LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #2

Yep. After Johnson voters find out AG Sessions will be enforcing federal marijuana laws they'll will RAFisher Nov 2016 #6

As a party, we need to be actively involved in persuading nonvoters to start voting. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #11

Use it or lose it. That is the extent of my persuasive speech. LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #13

Maybe this will bring the glorious progressive revolution Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2016 #37

Stop delivering beer outside the city limits and tell them rwheeler31 Nov 2016 #3

I think if Republicans are actually stupid enough to kill the ACA without having a real plan mythology Nov 2016 #4

They'll kill the ACA and blame Obama. And they'll get away with it. LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #14

That's my take also. pangaia Nov 2016 #18

It will depend on their reasons for their votes. The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 2016 #5

Yes on all counts. NanceGreggs Nov 2016 #7

When they start losing their health care, they will wake up. Trump made a lot of bold promises akbacchus_BC Nov 2016 #8

No they won't wake up. They will keep blaming LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #12

Do not underestimate ignorance. He promised them a bread basket and sooner than akbacchus_BC Nov 2016 #15

4 YEARS !!! pangaia Nov 2016 #20

You are right. pangaia Nov 2016 #19

in too many districts there is NO dem on the ballot at any level. lost dems might come back msongs Nov 2016 #9

That is an excellent point. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #10

That is what the repubs started doing at least as long agho as 1980.. in the '70s really.. pangaia Nov 2016 #21

I've felt, for the longest time, that establishment core of this party fears grassroots involvement. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #24

That is just not the case. boston bean Nov 2016 #33

My experience, watching Democratic politics since the early 1970's Ken Burch Nov 2016 #38

THIS !!!! Deans 50 state all counties should be dem mantra RIGHT HOT DAMN NOW... don't uponit7771 Nov 2016 #23

Well, there are also a kazillion districts where there is no Republican on the ballot at any level frazzled Nov 2016 #39

Guns. Rural voters care about their right to buy any kind of weapon. 33taw Nov 2016 #16

Do those people Doreen Nov 2016 #25

Yes, they think the republicans will let them keep their guns. 33taw Nov 2016 #28

I do not know Doreen Nov 2016 #41

I think a lot of them don't really understand what the GOP stands for, what it has in store for 'em Warren DeMontague Nov 2016 #31

I suspect watching their loved ones sicken and die will have an effect Vogon_Glory Nov 2016 #32

You all have too much faith in people Txbluedog Nov 2016 #34

Loss of health insurance, benefits, jobs, etc. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #35

Some people vote based on their personal feelings about the world rather than how they're affected gollygee Nov 2016 #36

I respect what you're asking, however, I don't believe we should be converting Trump voters. Hugin Nov 2016 #40

I'm not talking about trying to convert Trump voters. Ken Burch Nov 2016 #42