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2016 Postmortem

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BainsBane

(55,021 posts)
Wed Nov 30, 2016, 10:52 PM Nov 2016

It's clear people have not fully considered the con job that has been pulled on them [View all]

I still hear people repeating GOP propaganda that Hillary is a corporatist, beholden to Wall Street and therefore unfit to be President. That is supposed to explain her loss, even as Trump has appointed circa five billionaires to his cabinet and is preparing to privatize Medicare, Social Security, and undo regulation of finance, the environment and business in general. Yet somehow watching this doesn't cause people to reflect on their knee-jerk use of buzzwords that show an astounding lack of awareness of what we face under the Trump administration.

That rhetoric about Hillary's as beholden to Wall Street was created by the GOP, planted by them and their allies in the Kremlin in order to enable Republicans to seize control of the presidency and give away fucking everything to the obscenely rich. And that is exactly what Trump is embarking on now, as is evident from his cabinet appointments. Yet the same people keep parroting ahistorical talking points about the Democratic Party and Hillary in particular selling out, corporatism, blah, blah, blah.

You all got played, and badly. And what's worse is that you haven't figured it out. You got rid of the evil "corporatist" Democrats and circulated and continue to repeat propaganda that enables the GOP to open the federal treasury directly to pilfering by the richest men in the nation as they prepare to give away to Wall Street trillions Americans have contributed to SS and Medicare throughout their lives. The knee-jerk repeating of GOP propaganda continues to be entirely devoid of any relation to policy. It did not matter what Clinton actually voted or or proposed as policy. What mattered is that you decided she was a "corporatist." You even bought into the con job that Trump won based on his self-professed concern for the working class. It is obvious that his focus during his presidency will be further enriching himself and those like him, as has been his practice his entire life. He has never done anything but screw over ordinary people.

So many it's time to stop aping the buzz words that helped get him elected? Maybe it's time to focus on what politicians actually do rather than what people say about them? Maybe it's time to reflect on how you play into the hands of the powerful by doing their rhetorical bidding? Because if anyone still thinks there is any equivalency between Clinton and Trump, you're too fucking stupid to contribute to our party or this society.

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If only we had trusted Clinton instead of looking at her history. el_bryanto Nov 2016 #1
I suppose next time we should pick the candidate that lost the primary? And disenfranchise millions? bravenak Nov 2016 #2
Exactly! BainsBane Nov 2016 #6
I looked at her history BainsBane Nov 2016 #3
Well I care what happens to America - thats why I supported another candidate in the primary el_bryanto Nov 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #29
I don't care who you voted for in the primary BainsBane Dec 2016 #34
This!!! DemonGoddess Dec 2016 #39
the pres-elect CountAllVotes Nov 2016 #4
I voted for Hillary in the general election. So who exactly are you calling an idiot? nt el_bryanto Nov 2016 #13
Calling tRump supporters idiots CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #30
For most of his hayseed followers jambo101 Nov 2016 #21
Exactly! CountAllVotes Dec 2016 #28
Right, her voting record. The one that puts here squarely on the liberal side of Congress. TwilightZone Nov 2016 #7
Yep that's the one - She is a liberal; just not as liberal I would prefer, on a number of issues. el_bryanto Nov 2016 #14
That you even think that relevant now BainsBane Dec 2016 #35
well you cared enough to reply. el_bryanto Dec 2016 #36
if only we had believed Clint Eastwood and Empty Chair strawman Obama emulatorloo Nov 2016 #9
Well it seemed that people weren't interested in Russ Feingold's record or Cypher, Teachout, or still_one Dec 2016 #26
Trump is the *ultimate* elitist and the *ultimate* corporatist. He's a fricking BRAND, for heaven's TwilightZone Nov 2016 #5
But those Goldman Execs are being appointed BainsBane Nov 2016 #8
I think some of them just bought their own BS TwilightZone Nov 2016 #16
weapon-grade stupidity is right BainsBane Nov 2016 #20
You got played too if you think Hillary did everything she needed to do to win BeyondGeography Nov 2016 #11
I read that article BainsBane Nov 2016 #19
Sam Stein wrote a pretty definitive autopsy, if that one doesn't work for you BeyondGeography Nov 2016 #23
You might not have called her a corporatist. But a whole lot of people did. Constantly. kcr Dec 2016 #33
It was a silent coup, right before our eyes, with Russian help and assists from the FBI and Assange brush Nov 2016 #12
Yes it was nt Tumbulu Dec 2016 #25
This world wide wally Dec 2016 #27
It was a con by someone screaming from the rooftops with a megaphone Lucky Luciano Nov 2016 #15
Some people have to be in pain in order to learn. Yavin4 Nov 2016 #17
Sorry, think MUCH LONGER because the billionaires will never let us have flamingdem Nov 2016 #18
they are drunk on hate KT2000 Nov 2016 #22
addicted jambo101 Dec 2016 #31
Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #24
Yeah, it's a billionaire lollapalooza now. A veritable billionaire shindig. R B Garr Dec 2016 #32
Most of people... JSup Dec 2016 #37
Many Will Soon Enough colsohlibgal Dec 2016 #38
+1000000 triron Dec 2016 #40
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