2016 Postmortem

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116. or simply 'She's with you' nt

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You could see it coming. Hillary should never have run in 2016. [View all] mtnsnake Nov 2016 OP

No, she won the popular vote. She is going to win in 2020. The glass ceiling WILL BREAK. Table Nov 2016 #1

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Nov 2016 #3

So flawed as to win the most votes. Consistent way to continue the biased narrative, though. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #123

She won't run...and I hope you are not suggesting we let the GOP pick our candidate... Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #153

She will not run again. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2016 #17

NO! It is time for Hillary Clinton to move on. Raster Nov 2016 #31

Gawd no!!! We need an Elizabeth Warren progressive! RiverStone Nov 2016 #42

Post removed Post removed Dec 2016 #129

Well she sure as hell isn't one now.. CentralMass Dec 2016 #133

Why does Warren's decision to wait until her 40s to switch not matter when the left BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #138

Are you on the right forum? RiverStone Dec 2016 #139

Your use of the word retarded is offensive mythology Dec 2016 #143

She isn't going to win in 2020 because she isn't going to run. Statistical Nov 2016 #57

Oh, dear lord I hope she doesn't run again. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2016 #61

yeah. I came to like and admire her after preferring Bernie, but she's had two chances renate Dec 2016 #96

Good Dog no! Retrograde Nov 2016 #73

God, no! Chitown Kev Nov 2016 #84

Anyone who thinks Americans will vote for a... SMC22307 Nov 2016 #88

More like we'll all be killed by shattering glass after she loses again. jfern Dec 2016 #91

Elizabeth is always a possibility. InAbLuEsTaTe Dec 2016 #127

No! Cobalt Violet Dec 2016 #92

Not by her... Begabig Dec 2016 #97

Hell NO! Raine Dec 2016 #98

I hope she doesn't run get the red out Dec 2016 #112

Trump was a joke candidate, we should've sweeped the floor... jake335544 Dec 2016 #163

it wasn't the past 'baggage' geek tragedy Nov 2016 #2

stupid decision to give those speeches but I loved those excepts though.. JHan Nov 2016 #5

The email scandal was ridiculous only in magnitude Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2016 #20

hmm, what do you make of this take on it: ... JHan Nov 2016 #22

I don't like having to swipe my card key four times to get to my car out of the garage Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2016 #25

Yet wanting to streamline her communciations - which would have been high traffic - seems reasonable JHan Nov 2016 #28

As I have posted before, I work in a very high security job in the financial industry... Raster Nov 2016 #35

And no one saw this or noted it....? Or raise an eyebrow? JHan Nov 2016 #41

OH NO, Clinton was urged by EVERYONE that knew she was going to use her... Raster Nov 2016 #44

Yes, she messed up.... but Powell also dismissed security protocol: JHan Nov 2016 #52

Yes, but Powell was not running for POTUS. Raster Nov 2016 #55

which is why the press and its obsession with emails was so egregious.. JHan Nov 2016 #64

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No I don't, because there's no evidence of that. JHan Nov 2016 #71

Take your Breitbart lies somewhere else. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #72

If you ask those who have held a government security clearance and actually ... spin Nov 2016 #75

And Powell doesn't have 2 decades of Republican hatred mythology Dec 2016 #144

I recognize that..but to put the bullshit in perspective for a min: JHan Dec 2016 #158

The desire isn't unreasonable, the implementation was absurd. Sen. Walter Sobchak Nov 2016 #37

People in state did try SpareribSP Nov 2016 #50

Hardly zipplewrath Dec 2016 #148

I think alot of it was. There was no changing the minds of MANY people who already disliked her. jmg257 Nov 2016 #40

Buy once those speeches came out TexasBushwhacker Nov 2016 #62

The e-mail story doomed her because it never went away. Drunken Irishman Dec 2016 #132

"She just had to be the first woman president." Skinner Nov 2016 #4

Apparently Barack didn't want to be the first President "of color".. JHan Nov 2016 #6

Sorry but that's what it seemed like to me, Skinner. She wanted it so bad. mtnsnake Nov 2016 #12

Shame on her for wanting to be president. Skinner Nov 2016 #14

So you don't think her wanting to make history so badly had anything to do with her running in 2016? mtnsnake Nov 2016 #18

Name another candidate for whom wanting to be president is considered a negative. Skinner Nov 2016 #21

Of course there's nothing wrong with wanting to be president mtnsnake Nov 2016 #24

Her motivation is irrelevant! Skinner Nov 2016 #34

Thanks for putting words in my mouth mtnsnake Nov 2016 #43

You kind of undermined any point you thought you were making with the "woman president" nonsense. TwilightZone Nov 2016 #63

Now that we know the outcome it is easy to say she shouldn't have run. Skinner Nov 2016 #66

I think it would have looked a bit silly if a candidate who was polling in the 60s StevieM Nov 2016 #80

You 'feel' something, so it must be true. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #76

Oh please, we heard over and over again that she was too ambitious as if Sanders was running by bettyellen Nov 2016 #58

Everyone who runs for President wants to make history.. JHan Nov 2016 #67

18 of them from both parties won't be president in 2016 yeoman6987 Nov 2016 #30

Well I felt worse this time around. LisaM Nov 2016 #45

The only reason either Trump or Hillary had a chance to win BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #166

She's always also emphasized the "1st Female President " meme " riderinthestorm Nov 2016 #83

Really? You admitted on JPR that you wrote in Bernie for President and you drop this here? Did you seaglass Dec 2016 #99

Don't you have some threads to rec on JPR? Photoshops of Hillary with feces? yardwork Dec 2016 #106

Your last sentence gives you away. MineralMan Nov 2016 #7

You could see it coming. Bernie should never have run in 2016. R B Garr Nov 2016 #8

Bravo! lunamagica Nov 2016 #10

Dead-bang perfect, RBG. Thank you. Paladin Nov 2016 #15

Oh, please. TheCowsCameHome Nov 2016 #16

Right? Like she would've won the election if we wouldn't have bothered to even have a primary elehhhhna Nov 2016 #74

EVERYTHING, and I do mean EVERYTHING used against Clinton... Raster Nov 2016 #29

Not *everything* was there. Not at all, and no one from the Democratic party R B Garr Dec 2016 #141

Its amazing how fast Bernie went from sheepdog to scapegoat between June and November. aikoaiko Nov 2016 #39

NOT. AMAZING. AT. ALL... Raster Nov 2016 #47

Thank you. LisaM Nov 2016 #49

Maybe the establishment shouldn't have pushed a candidate shawn703 Nov 2016 #56

Yep! johnp3907 Dec 2016 #151

Well stated La Lioness Priyanka Dec 2016 #170

It sucks that qualification doesn't matter at all. MadamPresident Nov 2016 #9

You call her "such a qualified candidate" NCTraveler Nov 2016 #11

Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn't it? Paladin Nov 2016 #13

I used to support her like crazy here. Gawd, I was the one who used to call her the Goddess of Peace mtnsnake Nov 2016 #19

You are missing the point Dem2 Nov 2016 #27

Are you really trying to say Hillary had no baggage at all? SpareribSP Nov 2016 #54

This message was self-deleted by its author Duckhunter935 Nov 2016 #60

Seriously??? DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #23

Oh dear Dem2 Nov 2016 #26

People mad that Hillary ran really need to wake the hell UP... LenaBaby61 Nov 2016 #79

You could only see it coming if you knew the number of Democrats who were buying every one of Squinch Nov 2016 #32

What garbage! Welcome to the new world order. This is what happens to EVERY opponent of the gop now. AgadorSparticus Nov 2016 #33

agree--- we HAVE to find better ways of dealing with their crap Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #101

We need to find a way to deal with a media that reports nothing but propaganda. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #160

Yes we do & It really comes down to the media. We need to either have our own media stations AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #171

She is not good at campaigning. Tatiana Nov 2016 #36

I feared that she wouldn't win in 2008. I was relieved when Obama won the nomination. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #38

Bullshit. ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #46

The Democratic voters said something different asuhornets Nov 2016 #48

It was lies and cheating MFM008 Nov 2016 #51

But Trump, like Reagan, appealed to racism and hope. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #53

I agreed with most of it until the last sentence. Disgusting man just disgusting. Statistical Nov 2016 #59

I doubt if anyone on this forum has defended Hillary over the years as much as I have in the past mtnsnake Nov 2016 #69

they can't bear to hear the truth is so true. Cobalt Violet Dec 2016 #94

" By 2016 too many people across the country had had enough of the Bushes and Clintons." PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 2016 #65

This may be it hueymahl Dec 2016 #130

yes, I heard 'no more Bushes or Clintons over and over' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #157

I agree as well with everything but the last sentence too MichMan Nov 2016 #68

Translation: "If only she would have stayed home and baked cookies." emulatorloo Nov 2016 #77

My last sentence had nothing to do with being sexist. Skinner spun it like that so everyone piled on mtnsnake Nov 2016 #82

Everybody has an opinion. Yours is fact-free speculation and Skinner was right to call you out. emulatorloo Nov 2016 #85

You are wrong Gothmog Nov 2016 #78

So the Democrats shouldnt make any changes... just keep the status quo? davidn3600 Nov 2016 #81

Jeb Bush went down like a lead balloon NRQ891 Nov 2016 #86

my big red flag was "I'm with her" Locrian Dec 2016 #102

or simply 'She's with you' nt NRQ891 Dec 2016 #116

Pretty easy to call it in hindsight. zonkers Nov 2016 #87

It was pretty easy to call it beforehand for some of us too. Cobalt Violet Dec 2016 #95

I couldn't see it coming and others probably feel similarly andym Dec 2016 #89

You are being too hard to SOS Clinton. Perhaps she was flawed, but she was the best akbacchus_BC Dec 2016 #90

She should have been out of the running melman Dec 2016 #93

Completely disagree. So freaking tired of this post-mortem. Justice Dec 2016 #100

She was the only Democratic party Members running. stonecutter357 Dec 2016 #103

Nice of you to throw Martin O'Malley under the bus.... BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #167

Thank you so much for your concern. Lil Missy Dec 2016 #104

Well, well, babylonsister Dec 2016 #105

hey mtnsnake Dec 2016 #117

Take this crap back to JPR. yardwork Dec 2016 #107

What is JPR? I took an 8 yr break from here so I'm not up on the latest acronyms mtnsnake Dec 2016 #115

It is a Bernie or Bust website full of fake progressives who left DU musicblind Dec 2016 #120

thanks mtnsnake Dec 2016 #124

My apologies, then. However, this thread is full of people who now post on JPR. yardwork Dec 2016 #126

No problem, but thanks. mtnsnake Dec 2016 #135

Welcome back. Hillary is referred to on JPR as a mass murderer. yardwork Dec 2016 #137

I'll join the chorus of jeers: Great hindsight! Buzz Clik Dec 2016 #108

Rally cry of the Bernie Bro. NCTraveler Dec 2016 #109

Well said. (nt) Paladin Dec 2016 #114

Sure, how dare a woman be ambitious? Nonhlanhla Dec 2016 #110

Oh for gods sake it had nothing to do with that & if you can't figure that out mtnsnake Dec 2016 #113

You can spin this all you want Nonhlanhla Dec 2016 #119

I have to agree. She was definitely the best candidate for the job, but it was an "outsider" year. Vinca Dec 2016 #111

Why am I not surprised to see this crap? leftofcool Dec 2016 #118

Well that is a pretty awful original post. n/t musicblind Dec 2016 #121

Sure it is because the truth hurts. mtnsnake Dec 2016 #122

I'd pretend my unsupported premise lacking any objective evidence is a truth also... LanternWaste Dec 2016 #125

It's not the truth. n/t musicblind Dec 2016 #140

Hillary Clinton received more votes for president than any white male that has ever run Justice Dec 2016 #128

True, but statistics are misleading hueymahl Dec 2016 #131

Fighting the primaries all over again accomplishes nothing. VOX Dec 2016 #134

Your "thinking" is one Jakes Progress Dec 2016 #136

BS!!!! CajunBlazer Dec 2016 #142

Anyone can run. It's not really her fault. lumberjack_jeff Dec 2016 #145

Anyone except, apparently, Sanders. JudyM Dec 2016 #146

Is there a source for stating that Hillary did have a significant input into the debate schedule Glassunion Dec 2016 #147

Plenty. Since DWS was working for her. JudyM Dec 2016 #154

DWS was chair of the DNC, and working for the party not Clinton. Glassunion Dec 2016 #159

Oh I'm sure she stayed neutral on the subject. Even though she was personally involved in JudyM Dec 2016 #162

No one stopped Sanders from running BainsBane Dec 2016 #150

Check your old posts, BB. JudyM Dec 2016 #155

Still pushing that myth? JTFrog Dec 2016 #156

The bias is so palpable in this write up (see, e.g., the last line) that it doesn't pass for JudyM Dec 2016 #161

Lol, ok. Are you saying he made those numbers up? JTFrog Dec 2016 #165

You must not want Democrats to hold office BainsBane Dec 2016 #149

she won the popular vote... Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #152

Message auto-removed Name removed Dec 2016 #164

Thank you for your "concern". baldguy Dec 2016 #168

Agreed TrishaJ Dec 2016 #169