2016 Postmortem

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171. We didn't lose those seats - they were Republican already

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Thu Dec 1, 2016, 11:13 AM

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A word about all these threads implying white voters are racists [View all] NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 OP

Well Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #1

Something to drink while we watch? Kilgore Nov 2016 #151

Thanks Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #158

Plenty of them are just not worried about racism bhikkhu Nov 2016 #2

First thaye came for the muslims.... silence says a lot. I don't want to align myself onecaliberal Nov 2016 #5

It's not that they don't care about the plights of others, it's really not NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #15

I get that, and the reason I am a democrat is because I care about them. onecaliberal Nov 2016 #90

I have many friends like that and guess what? mountain grammy Nov 2016 #104

The most vocal Trump voter I know NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #107

I'm sure it's not mountain grammy Nov 2016 #119

They run the gamut, median income $70K bhikkhu Nov 2016 #120

I've always made a point of trying to expose myself and my kids to as much diversity as I can NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #146

I'm sorry, when you vote for someone screaming racist statements over and over and over adigal Nov 2016 #147

Exactly Justice Dec 2016 #166

With ya' ... eom Kolesar Dec 2016 #180

I'm sorry, I live in Alabama. yallerdawg Nov 2016 #3

The rust belt isn't in the south, though NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #18

Did you vote for Trump? I live paycheck to paycheck. LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #50

And you sound just like those 'racists' you so deplore. Sekhmets Daughter Nov 2016 #61

Good. I hope they are lurking and reveling in their superiority. LuvLoogie Nov 2016 #72

No, not really..in fact, not at all. mountain grammy Nov 2016 #106

No, I didn't vote for that orange asshole. I voted for Hillary in a battleground state... NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #67

but... hurple Nov 2016 #98

If you honestly believe that and intend to keep calling white rural voters racists NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #103

Your conclusion doesn't follow your statement adigal Nov 2016 #148

So you are just trying to shame people by calling them racists falsely? NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #153

What is wrong with shaming racists for doing something racist? bravenak Nov 2016 #154

My neighbors are rural and they are 90% racists. Nt adigal Dec 2016 #172

I've spent most of my life in rural New England and none of my neighbors were racists NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #175

I think NE is different - many friends live in VT and they aren't racist adigal Dec 2016 #177

I grew up in Maine and the only racism I ever saw there was one or two idiots who were jealous of NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #182

White voters that vote to deport millions of Arab Muslim Americans are in FACT racist bravenak Nov 2016 #4

You have the wrong impression: TCJ70 Nov 2016 #7

Racists vote to deport millions of others. Period. You cannot fix that. Lying about it is not helpfu bravenak Nov 2016 #10

I guess you just want to talk to yourself... TCJ70 Nov 2016 #14

I guess some people want to normalize the TOLERATION of racism and intimate its not just uponit7771 Nov 2016 #123

You're right. It's not OK... TCJ70 Nov 2016 #132

Great response. Let's see what the poster or the OP has to say about a little truthful reality check brush Nov 2016 #9

Nothing to say and they know it. bravenak Nov 2016 #11

But it seems a llike so so much longer lunasun Nov 2016 #101

Yep. I remember. bravenak Nov 2016 #116

Got a point there, Bravenak world wide wally Nov 2016 #114

We do not owe them our dignity. We should not have to appease them just cause they be mad. bravenak Nov 2016 #115

Well they did vote for one if they voted Orange Toxin treestar Nov 2016 #6

I actually know people who did vote Trump and I know they are not racists NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #23

Dating nonwhite people does not mean one is not a racist treestar Nov 2016 #24

What I would have said exactly.... pangaia Nov 2016 #41

Seeing as I know her and you don't, I KNOW that she is not a racist NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #53

oh you are talking about some specific person and treestar Nov 2016 #58

I'm an Independent and I have not voted for any Republican since McCain chose Palin as VP NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #63

You owe your vote to yourself treestar Nov 2016 #64

OK, so you feel entitled to my vote then? NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #70

There's only so much deflecting you can do.. JHan Nov 2016 #54

Geez. That's the first thing that came to mind for President Clinton? deurbano Nov 2016 #96

I come from rural New England NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #105

Very few people self-identify as racist or misogynist. A subconscious racial bias is still racism. deurbano Nov 2016 #112

It depends upon your definition of adultery. AngryAmish Dec 2016 #170

They voted FOR a racist. Bobbie Jo Nov 2016 #8

Perhaps they voted for the one that promised to bring back their jobs NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #27

Well, thety may have chewed off their own legs, but they also chewed off mine. pangaia Nov 2016 #45

Your last paragraph... Bobbie Jo Nov 2016 #68

To the rust belt it was about jobs NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #71

"Something else" Bobbie Jo Nov 2016 #74

As long as Democrats refuse to look deeper they will ensure Trump wins again NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #82

Suggesting that Democrats move to the right Bobbie Jo Nov 2016 #111

If this were REALLY about jobs, not race, the millions of black working folk living in the Rust Belt EffieBlack Nov 2016 #156

That is because there is a stark difference in their experiences concerning racism NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #159

So they TOLERATE racism and somehow that's ok too? REALLY?!!?! uponit7771 Nov 2016 #125

Fine, they're not racists dflprincess Nov 2016 #134

Thank you...and I'm not saying none of them are actually racists NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #142

I didn't make myself clear dflprincess Nov 2016 #144

Not everyone even knows all of that stuff NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #150

Agreed and recommended. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #12

Exactly! NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #30

I understand people are angry, and frightened, and apprehensive. I am also. guillaumeb Nov 2016 #38

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Well, look above for Goblinmonger Nov 2016 #21

my opinion is that if you voted for Trump you are/were a racist Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #29

Amen. nt. Dem2theMax Nov 2016 #141

Thats an old trick. jack_krass Dec 2016 #161

Consciously voting for a racist illustrates one as an enabler of racism... at best. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #168

Your thread title is a perfect example as you claimed that whites lost the election NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #35

this isnt my OP, its yours Grey Lemercier Nov 2016 #40

I agree with you, it's very unhelpful to portray so many of our fellow Americans as racist Dems to Win Nov 2016 #17

Conservative white culture respects women and gays? lol radius777 Nov 2016 #33

No one accepts being put in the back of the bus. Nor should they. Dems to Win Nov 2016 #43

Well, I agree some SJW types are too aggressive, radius777 Nov 2016 #59

". But people voted for a carnival barker because he at least respected them and their culture, pangaia Nov 2016 #47

Of course he's a liar, he's a carnival barker who convinced them he respects them Dems to Win Nov 2016 #49

Actually, I thought you were quoting one of the links.. pangaia Nov 2016 #51

Most of the white people that voted for Trump are either racists, sexists, homophobes.... LexVegas Nov 2016 #19

LexVegas you forgot to say ... LenaBaby61 Nov 2016 #37

Nothing to add. Starry Messenger Nov 2016 #140

More white people voted for Hillary than all non-whites combined. Buckeye_Democrat Nov 2016 #20

If they voted for Trump, they are undeniably racist and sexist. Either they are Squinch Nov 2016 #22

Awesome post! Branmerr Nov 2016 #26

Thank you. I'm so sick of this shit of giving people a pass on voting for a racist asshole Squinch Nov 2016 #31

Good work.... pangaia Nov 2016 #48

The Rust Belt got their revenge for NAFTA, signed by Hillary's husband nt Dems to Win Nov 2016 #55

Negotiated by GHWB passed with a veto proof majority bravenak Nov 2016 #75

They got that revenge by beating themselves over the head with a sledgehammer. Dumbasses. Squinch Nov 2016 #124

Absofuckinglutely! Dark n Stormy Knight Nov 2016 #117

"That's your education talking" as a derogatory observation. Squinch Nov 2016 #122

Yep, that damn education. I mean, apparently Trump has one, but Dark n Stormy Knight Dec 2016 #174

Hear hear! mountain grammy Nov 2016 #130

Nope. No matter how many words you type you cannot make this true. jack_krass Dec 2016 #162

They voted for a racist. They put a racist in power, thereby supporting racism. They are racist. Squinch Dec 2016 #173

Haters gonna hate. jalan48 Nov 2016 #25

Everyone who voted for Trump was OK with putting an extreme racist in the White House FiveGoodMen Nov 2016 #28

The people who voted for Trump voted mcar Nov 2016 #32

At the very LEAST OP... LenaBaby61 Nov 2016 #34

I think this person's sign sums it up nicely: johnp3907 Nov 2016 #36

Many counties that Obama won in 2012 and 2008 went to Trump. muntrv Nov 2016 #39

Many votes have been counted since Nov. 9, when spooky3 Nov 2016 #87

The typical Trump voter is middle class, radius777 Nov 2016 #42

Hello blue cat Nov 2016 #44

So you stop it blue cat Nov 2016 #46

Of what are likely many factors saltpoint Nov 2016 #52

Yes, it is one...but not for all of those who voted for him NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #60

I believe that while there are likely many saltpoint Nov 2016 #62

Try to imagine yourself in the position of rust belt voters for a minute NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #76

Well, I don't discount people saltpoint Nov 2016 #80

Or suppose you're really upset because the trains aren't running on time FiveGoodMen Nov 2016 #84

Exactly ! lunasun Nov 2016 #136

I'm not implying it ismnotwasm Nov 2016 #56

Very well said apcalc Nov 2016 #57

Trump voters are either racist, sexist and xenophobic OR they are cool with public displays of TeamPooka Nov 2016 #65

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 2016 #66

Meh. Those who voted for a racist have to prove they are not, indeed, racist. Coventina Nov 2016 #69

You know what? DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #73

I think many of the folks who feel most abandoned by government... mike_c Nov 2016 #77

This was overwhelmingly DemonGoddess Nov 2016 #79

I totally agree! TeacherB87 Nov 2016 #78

So excuse the toleration of racism as what? Just lie to them? REALLY?! uponit7771 Nov 2016 #128

I never said you have to tolerate racism. TeacherB87 Nov 2016 #143

Every single one of Trump's voters chose to vote for a racist, misogynistic, pnwmom Nov 2016 #81

if you vote for Bigot and Hate Monger ,,, Cryptoad Nov 2016 #91

Democrats didn't vote IronLionZion Nov 2016 #83

almost 50%,,, Cryptoad Nov 2016 #93

It is that simple IronLionZion Nov 2016 #99

People talk about unmotivated Democrats... sweetloukillbot Nov 2016 #108

Why did we lose Senate seats? IronLionZion Dec 2016 #165

We didn't lose those seats - they were Republican already sweetloukillbot Dec 2016 #171

We should have won both of them IronLionZion Dec 2016 #179

HRC recieved just as many votes as Obama did... the "they didn't vote" meme ended on the uponit7771 Nov 2016 #129

Just as many minus a few million from rust belt states IronLionZion Nov 2016 #137

Nope... 100,000 between the 3 states she was projected to win ... voter suppression laws. uponit7771 Nov 2016 #139

Clinton is on track to receive about as many votes as Obama received in 2012. TwilightZone Nov 2016 #131

Not in the rust belt states we lost IronLionZion Nov 2016 #138

I think that their election choices reflect accurately on how they really feel. NRaleighLiberal Nov 2016 #85

Ignoring and excusing racism is no better than being a racist. MadamPresident Nov 2016 #86

DING ... DING .... DING, tolerating racism is no better than being one !! uponit7771 Nov 2016 #127

OK - white voters who tolerate racism and racists. KT2000 Nov 2016 #88

Fine ...not all trump voters are racists....but the ones that aren't, are delusional or ignorant Fresh_Start Nov 2016 #89

you can not vote for Cryptoad Nov 2016 #95

Thank you, well said. nt Bobbie Jo Nov 2016 #100

Not delusional, more desperate, foolish, irresponsible for not educating themselves NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #109

... or tolerate racism and that's not good either uponit7771 Nov 2016 #126

Let's call a spade a spade: TRUMP voters are racists Saviolo Nov 2016 #92

When you have no job and are on the verge of homelessness like many in the rust belt NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #113

No! hurple Nov 2016 #94

Toni Morrison said it best appacom Nov 2016 #97

the rust belt voters heaven05 Nov 2016 #102

The definition of Bigot is... NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #110

Look in the mirror heaven05 Nov 2016 #118

Ok thanks for letting us know some don't care what he said about other people . Deals with lunasun Nov 2016 #121

Many of them are. HassleCat Nov 2016 #133

Blaming this on white racism is way too simplistic MichMan Nov 2016 #135

Comey's actions may have been questionable, but Anthony Weiner handed it to him NRQ891 Nov 2016 #152

The polls say otherwise. Starry Messenger Nov 2016 #145

I have worked in rust belt blue collar jobs, and agree somewhat ..... but kwassa Nov 2016 #149

There are some racists, I'm sure...but people are saying ALL, and that is NOT true NoGoodNamesLeft Nov 2016 #155

Racism is not their motivation. Self-interest is. kwassa Nov 2016 #157

Agreed...they were fed a lie and bought it NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #160

Most of my friends are women.... Spitfire of ATJ Dec 2016 #163

I agree with you to a certain point. You know that Trump brought out all the racists akbacchus_BC Dec 2016 #164

Try not to confuse "imply" and "infer." LanternWaste Dec 2016 #167

For several days there have been threads calling all of certain groups of white voters racists NoGoodNamesLeft Dec 2016 #176

Highly offensive? Chitown Kev Dec 2016 #169

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"implying"? BigDemVoter Dec 2016 #181

Well, if they supported the candidate of the Nazis & The KKK .... baldguy Dec 2016 #183

Perhaps it is more accurate to say they were "suckers"... kentuck Dec 2016 #184