2016 Postmortem

baldguy

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46. There are many reasons to oppose Ellison that don't involve besmirching his faith.

Reply to Demsrule86 (Reply #45)

Fri Dec 2, 2016, 08:03 AM

Dec 2016

But that's all the OP and his fellow travelers seem to do.

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ADL has 'serious concerns' whether Ellison can lead DNC [View all] TuslaUltra Dec 2016 OP

Ellison made the unforgiveable mistake of telling an inconvenient truth. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #1

Yep. Sometimes discretion WhiteTara Dec 2016 #2

And remember where the bribes come from. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #3

Yes. I left out WhiteTara Dec 2016 #11

To clarify mythology Dec 2016 #26

Yes - that's exactly what he leftynyc Dec 2016 #33

Yes - Heaven forbid leftynyc Dec 2016 #32

Actually the main topic is people trying to attack Ellsion for daring guillaumeb Dec 2016 #53

No - the topic is the ADL leftynyc Dec 2016 #56

Does the ADL attack the State of Israel for its treatment of Israeli Arabs, Christians, guillaumeb Dec 2016 #58

It's an AMERICAN organization leftynyc Dec 2016 #60

I already mentioned a few of the numerous countries that are massive human rights violators. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #67

That's not ALL they're objecting to leftynyc Dec 2016 #69

When they attempt to influence US policy and frame what is considered acceptable thought guillaumeb Dec 2016 #71

Spare me the selective outrage leftynyc Dec 2016 #73

As are yours. They are obvious from your posts. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #75

Yawn leftynyc Dec 2016 #77

You stand with some Americans. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #78

I stand with the MAJORITY leftynyc Dec 2016 #79

Must be incredible to "know" what a movie is about so you can dismiss it without guillaumeb Dec 2016 #82

Why, thank you leftynyc Dec 2016 #84

And you. And remember that Trump only has 49 months left in his reign. eom guillaumeb Dec 2016 #85

Which "truth" would that be? grossproffit Dec 2016 #4

The truth that Israel is treated far differently than most other violators of human rights. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #5

Your opinion isn't the truth. grossproffit Dec 2016 #7

Nor is yours. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #8

And I have never figured out WhiteTara Dec 2016 #14

You obviously have no idea then, PCIntern Dec 2016 #36

Please enlighten me. nt WhiteTara Dec 2016 #62

Well, we do not really know what their secret services might have done for the US. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #55

No - it's because he CHOSE leftynyc Dec 2016 #63

And some actual liberals can overlook the human rights violations committed by the State of Israel. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #68

Editing this post leftynyc Dec 2016 #70

I have as much respect for Judaism as I do for all religions. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #74

I can see you wish to ignore leftynyc Dec 2016 #76

You weren't talking about Israel. marybourg Dec 2016 #27

We trade with China who is a horrible human right's violater. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #38

Well not a whole lot different than we treat ourselves though, so there's that. nt JCanete Dec 2016 #81

Very true. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #83

Whether it is valid or not the question is as a DNC chair would this create a distraction to do the still_one Dec 2016 #23

Not a good idea to put someone in the DNC job who has Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #39

you just made the point much better than I was trying to do. The DNC chair needs to bring people still_one Dec 2016 #48

And the question of "creating a distraction" could apply to anyone who has ever made a public guillaumeb Dec 2016 #52

I pretend allegations are truths as well. LanternWaste Dec 2016 #72

Anyone who perpetuates propaganda against Jews has no place in a leadership role, yet alone our grossproffit Dec 2016 #6

There is a difference between propaganda and inconvenient truths. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #9

Did you miss this part? His implying that Jews run our government? That has NO place in our party. grossproffit Dec 2016 #12

I certainly don't say that our government is run WhiteTara Dec 2016 #18

That's what this article is about. The "inconvenient truth" that the first poster was referencing. grossproffit Dec 2016 #21

I still think that we are a better WhiteTara Dec 2016 #22

Ellison didn't say that, either. Orsino Dec 2016 #57

Like why are we so attached to Israel? WhiteTara Dec 2016 #59

WTF are you talking about? leftynyc Dec 2016 #80

He's suggesting that US policy harms the vast majority of people in that region of the world. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #29

So which countries in the region leftynyc Dec 2016 #34

No, I did not see that part, even after rereading the article. guillaumeb Dec 2016 #51

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they stand up for many types of people; TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #15

This has nothing to do with anti-Semitism, and is in no way comparable to Steve Bannon. DanTex Dec 2016 #13

accusing America's foreign policy of being "controlled" by a much smaller and less wealthier TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #16

Why did you put the word "controlled" in quotes? DanTex Dec 2016 #19

When someone purposely says that Jews run the government, that is anti-Semitism. grossproffit Dec 2016 #17

I agree. But I was talking about Keith Ellison's remarks on US policy towards Israel, which have DanTex Dec 2016 #20

This message was self-deleted by its author oberliner Dec 2016 #35

I agree. THAT person shouldn't run the DNC. Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #64

It is comparable to Bannon Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #40

Give me a break. Ellison made a statement about foreign policy that you disagree with. DanTex Dec 2016 #43

Unless the news is not accurate...his statement was very controversial. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #44

Controversial, sure. A lot of statements about Middle East politics are controversial. DanTex Dec 2016 #47

Wait. I hope I'm not understanding this. Goblinmonger Dec 2016 #65

I agree 100%. Schumer should rescind his endorsement. tritsofme Dec 2016 #24

I'd bet his office is getting calls to do so TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #25

This is looking like a smear campaign by an islamophobic conspiracy theorist Hong Kong Cavalier Dec 2016 #28

It doesn't matter why Ellison said what he said...he said it. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #41

How dare he not be a 100% shill for Israel? jfern Dec 2016 #30

The post of DNC Chairman is not a job to Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #42

That point seems to be lost by some here still_one Dec 2016 #49

Well, 3rd way failed rather badly on that, so I'll ignore their attacks. jfern Dec 2016 #87

I like Ellison and I understand his position on Israel. I just don't think he is the man or woman... phleshdef Dec 2016 #31

And the RW-generated Ellison hatred keeps on coming. baldguy Dec 2016 #37

A bit over the top and unfair. Demsrule86 Dec 2016 #45

There are many reasons to oppose Ellison that don't involve besmirching his faith. baldguy Dec 2016 #46

Really? leftynyc Dec 2016 #61

Yes, really. baldguy Dec 2016 #86

I have met and like Keith Ellison but I do not support him for DNC chair. Gothmog Dec 2016 #50

well said. He's a poor fit and a distraction TuslaUltra Dec 2016 #54

Ellison is too controversial, flush his candidacy Grey Lemercier Dec 2016 #66

What a BS article and a bs post hueymahl Dec 2016 #88