2016 Postmortem

NRQ891

(217 posts) Fri Dec 2, 2016, 10:53 AM Dec 2016

IMO, the number one reason Hillary has been demonized for so long, and had high negatives [View all]

because for 16 years, many have placed the idea as 'inevitable' that she would be the first woman president.

So, if you're an operative on the other side, where do you place your opposition resources? The resources are never unlimited.

Suppose your team says 'we will win the Superbowl, with a pass sometime during the season, from quarterback X to receiver Y'

Guess who the other teams are going to cover?

There should always be a stable of candidates to deploy, with essentially similar policy, ready to go, with spares for issues of personal negatives, and to give the other side a dispersal of targets to deploy resources on. Given all the money spent on an election, and how much there is at stake, there's no reason this can't be done.

That's why this side lost this election, period. (IMO). It was a tactical error above and beyond anything else. A candidate with lower negatives would have won.

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IMO, the number one reason Hillary has been demonized for so long, and had high negatives [View all] NRQ891 Dec 2016 OP

It goes back way more than 16 years. DURHAM D Dec 2016 #1

but that only makes my point even moreso NRQ891 Dec 2016 #4

I assume you think all women of substance DURHAM D Dec 2016 #6

i believe that more women than one, have substance NRQ891 Dec 2016 #8

You are missing the point because DURHAM D Dec 2016 #9

I do have an agenda - a more practical perspective about what happened NRQ891 Dec 2016 #10

Who were you before on DU? nt DURHAM D Dec 2016 #11

'Who were you before on DU?' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #12

non-responsive DURHAM D Dec 2016 #13

you asked who I was, before I came on DU NRQ891 Dec 2016 #16

No I didn't. DURHAM D Dec 2016 #20

Hillary has been demonized since she first came to national attention. Arkansas Granny Dec 2016 #2

"Inevitable" was also used by the brocialist movement, for the same reasons. BobbyDrake Dec 2016 #15

They have been attacking her since 1992 when she introduced her healthcare plan still_one Dec 2016 #3

Longer than that. tammywammy Dec 2016 #29

Ture still_one Dec 2016 #30

Like she is responsible for what the right has done to her. boston bean Dec 2016 #5

you are missing my point entirely NRQ891 Dec 2016 #7

This message was self-deleted by its author LanternWaste Dec 2016 #14

Any Dem would have had a tough time in this climate, and fact is, Hillary had a lot of strong Fast Walker 52 Dec 2016 #17

Biden would have won hands down NRQ891 Dec 2016 #19

Yes, Biden probably would have won. But I have no interest in more "Bidens." Garrett78 Dec 2016 #23

Actually I believe Biden did harbor thoughts of running... Raster Dec 2016 #26

"inextricably tied in the minds of conservative Christians to their loss of the culture war battles" Garrett78 Dec 2016 #18

'The only ones I've ever heard use the language of inevitability ' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #21

As a strategy to defeat her in the Dem primaries. Garrett78 Dec 2016 #22

i suggested that she was unliked, because she was a high probable target for GOP to deploy resources NRQ891 Dec 2016 #24

There was a stable of candidates...she whipped them or they were too scared to run. nt LexVegas Dec 2016 #25

No, it's because she doesn't always bake cookies, and she used her maiden name. kydo Dec 2016 #27

The Clinton Presidency brought about the creation of Fox News (check it out) world wide wally Dec 2016 #28

Without Comey/FBI she wins easily. radius777 Dec 2016 #31

Bullshit. ismnotwasm Dec 2016 #32

Those negatives you're bleating about came largely from the right-wing media and politicians. Paladin Dec 2016 #33

Bullshit. It is because she's been an influential Democrat since the Watergate Committee. Coyotl Dec 2016 #34

I don't know if that's the only reason she lost, but there is a lot of truth in what you're saying mtnsnake Dec 2016 #35