2016 Postmortem

PatsFan87

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12. Let's not forget that

Fri Dec 2, 2016, 11:16 PM

Dec 2016

Bernie won Wisconsin and Michigan in the primary. Exit polls show he beat Hillary 72%-28% among independents in Wisconsin. In Michigan, he beat her 71%-28% among independents. 72%-26% in Pennsylvania. 66%-33% in Ohio. 72%-28% in Indiana. 67%-33% in Missouri. 58%-34% in North Carolina. If Hillary brought in the centrist Democrats and Bernie brought in the left and independents, I think that could have been a winning combo.

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Bernie as VP. That's my 2 cents [View all] ALBliberal Dec 2016 OP

Or Elizabeth Warren. SpareribSP Dec 2016 #1

Kaine was "safe" and I personally ALBliberal Dec 2016 #3

Try ego...Bernie or Warren would have been an admission of need/vulnerability BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #2

That's an interesting take that I admittedly didn't think too much about. SpareribSP Dec 2016 #4

I think you're right, but I also think she didn't really buy what Sanders and Warren were selling. JudyM Dec 2016 #11

Doubt she makes the same choice if she had to do it all over again BeyondGeography Dec 2016 #13

I never thought it was that. I think she figured she had it in the bag, yes. But the choice was Grown2Hate Dec 2016 #20

I agree but I don't think she would've been able to stomach him even if she did see the tsunami. JudyM Dec 2016 #28

There was never any way he'd have been on the ticket with her, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #5

Bernie had true followers. ALBliberal Dec 2016 #7

The way to have capitalized it was to have nominated him. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #10

Thank you !! pangaia Dec 2016 #32

If sanders had some kind of assurance from her that he'd be granted authority to manage bold actions JudyM Dec 2016 #14

I will say I missed that. PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #18

It was a video of him being interviewed on a talk show or news show this week. It surprised me, too, JudyM Dec 2016 #24

If he only said that recently, it doesn't really mean much, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #38

Maybe but I doubt he'd say it now if he hadn't thought similarly before. JudyM Dec 2016 #39

It's interesting that he would have taken it, PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2016 #40

They would've probably won but might've been a tad too activist for our corporate sponsors to allow. JudyM Dec 2016 #41

It wouldn't have been a good choice. TexasTowelie Dec 2016 #6

'Anything negative that Bernie said against Hillary during the primaries' NRQ891 Dec 2016 #8

All good points. ALBliberal Dec 2016 #9

Let's not forget that PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #12

Keep in mind that those winning percentages that you mention TexasTowelie Dec 2016 #22

Not a lot of argument here, it's all purely speculation at this point. PatsFan87 Dec 2016 #27

Coulda, Woulda, Shoulda Me. Dec 2016 #15

Me too... I was begging for her to pick him budkin Dec 2016 #16

Hillary picked Tim Kaine for the same reason... Shemp Howard Dec 2016 #19

I don't think this is a reasonable conclusion. StevieM Dec 2016 #25

Good point Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #29

So much for "Stronger Together." n/t Efilroft Sul Dec 2016 #23

Moving forward Lotusflower70 Dec 2016 #30

Ugh. This shit again. Squinch Dec 2016 #17

Enough, already....let it go. AgadorSparticus Dec 2016 #21

Face the danger. WheelWalker Dec 2016 #26

I agree. kerouac2 Dec 2016 #31

The problem there is that Sanders basically ran against the Democratic party ucrdem Dec 2016 #33

yes. unify. excite the base. pansypoo53219 Dec 2016 #34

Our ticket was as WHITE as the GOP's. BlueProgressive Dec 2016 #35

But, He doesn't speak spanish killbotfactory Dec 2016 #36

Fyi, it might be best to just NWCorona Dec 2016 #37