Yes, Millennials also cost us the election.

[JHan]

127. Stick a pin in it..

"Doesn't the DNC take money from Wall Street? Isn't Wall Street always coddled by both parties? No matter who won the presidential election, the Treasury Secretary was going to be from a Wall Street firm. Those are facts. If establishment candidates feel it makes them look "corrupt" maybe they should examine their behavior. "

And Political parties have taken money from moneyed interests since the days of whenever. I'm all for campaign finance reform.

And the world would have been better without ACA? And what happened over the past 8 years? and the difficulty getting even the ACA considered or even "fixed" with a Republican congress? Leaving Obama to resort to doing what again? Also remind me how we got a republican congress - yeah Dems abandoned Obama in 2010.

"Yes, by Republicans in the House and Senate, by donors, by media, by Wall Street, by multinational corporations, by nations that supply H1-B visa workers(she did say that she could be elected Senator of Punjab), she would have responded to pressure by all of those groups. Voters, not so much. Liberals, not at all. She would have pointed out that the liberals managed - despite her best efforts - to have some influence in the party platform. She probably would have then demanded that liberals who want the platform ideas enacted work for the establishment to elect more establishment candidates, who would also ignore the party platform."

You need a democratic/liberal congress to get the things you want passed. No ,you cannot assume, framed by your dislike of her, what she would or would not have done. We know , for a fact - and this was actually my point - that progressive groups would have demanded she stay true to her platform. The promises on her platform were actually workable. Hence why I said "her feet would have been held to the fire" -