So you voted for Stein or Johnson? What did you get for your vote?

[stevebreeze]

It's clear that third party voting did not cause Trump to loose the election. He "won" kinda sorta.

It's far less clear that Hillary Clinton lost due to erosion from third parties. We know that neither Gary Johnson or Jill Stein makes the claim that they are to blame for Clinton's loss. In fact both Jill Stein and Gary Johnson deny they are the cause of Hilary's loss.
Neither third party received the 5% needed for federal funding of their party 4 years from now. Johnson 3.8% Stein less then 1%.
So neither third party is going to have a windfall for party building. Third party's will return to their normal also ran status in four years. Nothing accomplished on this front.

Then you have to ask yourself why aren't Stein and Johnson claiming the messed up the election for Clinton? This is the best outcome either of them could have rationally have hoped for. The BEST! The argument then is one of the large parties should lean toward their stances and so not risk having their election screwed up next time. This isn't happening either.

No third party candidate has ever won in the history of the United States. This leads me to one other factor, the enormous waste of time arguing for third parties on this board and elsewhere. so thanks for that.

If you voted third party you should feel like the right wing played you for a chump, because they did and you were.

Can we at least learn for 2 years from now? I hope so!